pudge said:I never said he dived against Liverpool, he just milked it.noise said:From what I remember the tackle was actually pretty rough, Dzeko hit the ground with a considerable impact. He was clearly fouled. He wasn't injured, and you don't seem happy about that.pudge said:Does he have to lie on the ground for as long as he did to prove he was fouled?
He did pretend he was injured, that's the problem
He didn't dive, the sliding tacle made him hit the ground, there was definite contact. Wether there was injury involved is irrelevant.
He was tackled, feigned injury, they scored some time after yet he was still on the ground and then got straight up to shout at the ref and then carried on
Thats not right.
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As he should have, but the fact he did proves what he did was wrong.adorado30 said:I didn't compare the two.
I just don't think model professionals should throw a tantrum and undermine the manager's decision.
Like I said, he may well be a nice guy but he's not a "model professional" for the above reasons in my eyes.
He admitted he was wrong, personally and publicly apologized to Mancini and that's not good enough for you ?
I respect him for acknowledging what he did was unprofessional but it was just that, so I fail to see how he can be described as a model pro
Like I said, he seems like a really nice guy. I have nothing but respect for all the charity work he does, he's a UNICEF ambassador if I'm not mistaken?adorado30 said:pudge said:I never said he dived against Liverpool, he just milked it.noise said:From what I remember the tackle was actually pretty rough, Dzeko hit the ground with a considerable impact. He was clearly fouled. He wasn't injured, and you don't seem happy about that.
He didn't dive, the sliding tacle made him hit the ground, there was definite contact. Wether there was injury involved is irrelevant.
He was tackled, feigned injury, they scored some time after yet he was still on the ground and then got straight up to shout at the ref and then carried on
Thats not right.
-- Mar 23rd, '13, 05:48 --
As he should have, but the fact he did proves what he did was wrong.adorado30 said:I didn't compare the two.
I just don't think model professionals should throw a tantrum and undermine the manager's decision.
Like I said, he may well be a nice guy but he's not a "model professional" for the above reasons in my eyes.
He admitted he was wrong, personally and publicly apologized to Mancini and that's not good enough for you ?
I respect him for acknowledging what he did was unprofessional but it was just that, so I fail to see how he can be described as a model pro
A Model pro is just not measured on the field but as much off the field and Dzeko does a lot of humanitarian things that we lack to see from today's professional athletes and that's exactly what makes him such a model pro
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See above.noise said:Let me get this straight. Because Dzeko may have had a one time disagreement with Mancini (a temperamental Italian) which he publicly apologized for, he's somehow not a model pro.
Our only striker who's never been red carded, and who is constantly involved in children charities is somehow not a model professional?
pudge said:Like I said, he seems like a really nice guy. I have nothing but respect for all the charity work he does, he's a UNICEF ambassador if I'm not mistaken?adorado30 said:pudge said:I never said he dived against Liverpool, he just milked it.
He was tackled, feigned injury, they scored some time after yet he was still on the ground and then got straight up to shout at the ref and then carried on
Thats not right.
-- Mar 23rd, '13, 05:48 --
As he should have, but the fact he did proves what he did was wrong.
I respect him for acknowledging what he did was unprofessional but it was just that, so I fail to see how he can be described as a model pro
A Model pro is just not measured on the field but as much off the field and Dzeko does a lot of humanitarian things that we lack to see from today's professional athletes and that's exactly what makes him such a model pro
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But if someone does something unprofessional, they aren't a "model professional" surely? Which is why there aren't many imo.
A nice guy, yes. But as he's a professional footballer, I don't see him or many for that matter as a model professional footballer. I'm not singling him out, maybe I just have high standards.
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See above.noise said:Let me get this straight. Because Dzeko may have had a one time disagreement with Mancini (a temperamental Italian) which he publicly apologized for, he's somehow not a model pro.
Our only striker who's never been red carded, and who is constantly involved in children charities is somehow not a model professional?
For arguments sake, and I'm not comparing the two, would you class Tevez as a model professional? If not, why?
Sorry, I never accused any of the Man City players of not being model professionals.pudge said:For arguments sake, and I'm not comparing the two, would you class Tevez as a model professional? If not, why?
I actually let you off the hook. But since you want to continue. I challenge you to find me a single example of Dzeko diving, which you accused him of.pudge said:Also, nice to see you've skipped over our discussion and changed the subject.
The one of the three examples of him diving you gave you recanted. It's kind of tiring to guess which one you think was a dive. So how about you tell us? When did a player in question a player from our team dive?pudge said:But as this is the Dzeko thread, I'll comment on Edin's lack of strength and diving.
The three instances I gave where not giving as dives.noise said:Sorry, I never accused any of the Man City players of not being model professionals.pudge said:For arguments sake, and I'm not comparing the two, would you class Tevez as a model professional? If not, why?
I actually let you off the hook. But since you want to continue. I challenge you to find me a single example of Dzeko diving, which you accused him of.pudge said:Also, nice to see you've skipped over our discussion and changed the subject.
The one of the three examples of him diving you gave you recanted. It's kind of tiring to guess which one you think was a dive. So how about you tell us? When did a player in question a player from our team dive?pudge said:But as this is the Dzeko thread, I'll comment on Edin's lack of strength and diving.
Exactly, then by that logic you would have to say Richards is not a model professional.adorado30 said:pudge said:Like I said, he seems like a really nice guy. I have nothing but respect for all the charity work he does, he's a UNICEF ambassador if I'm not mistaken?adorado30 said:A Model pro is just not measured on the field but as much off the field and Dzeko does a lot of humanitarian things that we lack to see from today's professional athletes and that's exactly what makes him such a model pro
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But if someone does something unprofessional, they aren't a "model professional" surely? Which is why there aren't many imo.
A nice guy, yes. But as he's a professional footballer, I don't see him or many for that matter as a model professional footballer. I'm not singling him out, maybe I just have high standards.
-- Mar 23rd, '13, 06:10 --
See above.noise said:Let me get this straight. Because Dzeko may have had a one time disagreement with Mancini (a temperamental Italian) which he publicly apologized for, he's somehow not a model pro.
Our only striker who's never been red carded, and who is constantly involved in children charities is somehow not a model professional?
For arguments sake, and I'm not comparing the two, would you class Tevez as a model professional? If not, why?
I would not because he thinks he's above the law. I just don't get why some professional footballers who come to England to play and most importantly live cant just obey simple laws ? The fuckin around with cars, driving without insurance/license.
Sorry if my style isn't shitting on Man City players.pudge said:Also, noise, I never said you questioned the professionalism of City players.
I simply asked you a genuine question.
Your refusal to answer speaks voluems though.
I don't blame you for not wanting to watch it. But I feel it was a dive, as did others.noise said:I don't remember the incident, but I will look it up, even though I don't really feel like watching that horrific game again. I don't really remember him diving though.