Edin Dzeko

[Maldeika]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

raphael honigstein ‏@honigstein
. @SkySportNews in Germany are saying that Dzeko's camp are backing up the story

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But Diouf from Hannover is on Dortmund's list, too - and today it was in the news that he does not prolong his contract that is running until 2014.

 

[mancity1]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

Other than Reus , they have never gone close to spending 20mill on a player and they won't pay anything near 20mill for Dzeko.

Had they got him from Wolsburg before we stepped in they wouldn't have paid more than 10 mill for him tops.

 

[mancity1]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

Bild says talks are happening between us and Dortmund despite all the "We can't buy a City player" public nonsense. But Dzeko's high wage demands (about £2.7million/year more than Dortmund willing to pay) are threatening to kill it, would he prefer to be a fringe player next season on big wages than a starter at an exciting club like Dortmund...?

There is also that little thing called a transfer fee to consider.

Dortmund are not renown for breaking the bank when it comes to paying for a player.

If memory serves me right they have only once in their history paid a transfer fee over 10 mill.

There is no way they will pay anything near 20 mill for Dzeko.

Maybe 10 mill is about as high as they would go.

The only way this would happen is if their main striker was on our hit list but I think we have bigger fish to fry with Rooney and or Ronaldo or failing that Cavani or Falcao.

 

[alky313]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

The thing with Edin is that he does score goals yes, many of which only require him to tap them in. but otherwise his work-rate is similar to a paraplegic in the sense that he doesn't do much than just stand there in the right place at the right time. not saying he is bad, but he could surely give more effort. his sloppiness causes him not to start which i think is good, he is our super-sub. and if he doesn't like that title, it will give him motivation to work harder. which is a win for us

Would you then call Aguero/Tevez/Silva/Mario incompetent and ineffective when Edin has to be brought in to rescue the game on 3-4 occasions? He is not a super-sub and he proved his contribution numerous times in the games he did start. He could and should improve on all levels however!! The FACT is that many games this season Tevez/Kun/Mario/Silva started playing "our style of the game" resulting in teams reading and shutting us down until Mancini out of desperation had to play Plan D(zeko).

For folks bashing him for "not adapting" to our tiki-taka style of play here is flip-side: are other City players incapable of making long, precise, out-of-nowhere crosses once in a while toward the f'n box like RVP used to get at Arsenal by Song? Just imagine where would we be if whole team, beginning with Mancini, started to play a bit more utilizing what Edin is best known for - fast-paced attacks - instead of stubbornly drilling the ball through the middle. Teams wouldn't know what hit them !

We don't own players like that. So the decision the club has is whether to buy a player in the hopes that it increases his output, or sell him and buy a player that increases everyone else's output.

Seems like a no brainers. It's a lose-lose situation for Dzeko.

 

[Maldeika]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

Bild says talks are happening between us and Dortmund despite all the "We can't buy a City player" public nonsense. But Dzeko's high wage demands (about £2.7million/year more than Dortmund willing to pay) are threatening to kill it, would he prefer to be a fringe player next season on big wages than a starter at an exciting club like Dortmund...?

There is also that little thing called a transfer fee to consider.

Dortmund are not renown for breaking the bank when it comes to paying for a player.

If memory serves me right they have only once in their history paid a transfer fee over 10 mill.

There is no way they will pay anything near 20 mill for Dzeko.

Maybe 10 mill is about as high as they would go.

The only way this would happen is if their main striker was on our hit list but I think we have bigger fish to fry with Rooney and or Ronaldo or failing that Cavani or Falcao.

Dortmund already told that they will break the bank for transfers this year. They had enough income because of the CL...

And Dortmund had some big transfers before - just not recently but 10 years ago, they even had the record transfers not Bayern - Evanilson 15 million, Amoroso 25 million, Rosicky 14.5 million

There "youth philosophy" is not a van-Gaal-philosophy who really loves do build up and form young players - it came because of being nearly bankrupt because of former spending...

 

[mancity1]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

Bild says talks are happening between us and Dortmund despite all the "We can't buy a City player" public nonsense. But Dzeko's high wage demands (about £2.7million/year more than Dortmund willing to pay) are threatening to kill it, would he prefer to be a fringe player next season on big wages than a starter at an exciting club like Dortmund...?

There is also that little thing called a transfer fee to consider.

Dortmund are not renown for breaking the bank when it comes to paying for a player.

If memory serves me right they have only once in their history paid a transfer fee over 10 mill.

There is no way they will pay anything near 20 mill for Dzeko.

Maybe 10 mill is about as high as they would go.

The only way this would happen is if their main striker was on our hit list but I think we have bigger fish to fry with Rooney and or Ronaldo or failing that Cavani or Falcao.

Dortmund already told that they will break the bank for transfers this year. They had enough income because of the CL...

And Dortmund had some big transfers before - just not recently but 10 years ago, they even had the record transfers not Bayern - Evanilson 15 million, Amoroso 25 million, Rosicky 14.5 million

There "youth philosophy" is not a van-Gaal-philosophy who really loves do build up and form young players - it came because of being nearly bankrupt because of former spending...

They have had the money long before their CL success this year to pay the required amounts ala Amoroso and Reus on players that would cost them more than 20 mill but chose a different path.

They could have got Dzeko long before City showed any interest in him.

As some clubs are prepared to pay well over 20 mill for strikers with as little as one year left on their contracts now its a shoe in we won't sell Dzeko for anywhere near what Dortmund would be prepared to offer.

 

[MSP]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

They'll start to pay for players or they'll be ping-pong club like rest of Bundesliga ones, except Bayern are.

If they think they'll continue to be top quality club by selling players and finding young ones to develop, they might rethink that and have a look at Amsterdam Arena to see where they'd head to.

You can hit the jackpot with one generation of cheaply assembled team but that doesn't happen very often. Sometimes never again.

 

[mancity1]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

They'll start to pay for players or they'll be ping-pong club like rest of Bundesliga ones, except Bayern are.

If they think they'll continue to be top quality club by selling players and finding young ones to develop, they might rethink that and have a look at Amsterdam Arena to see where they'd head to.

You can hit the jackpot with one generation of cheaply assembled team but that doesn't happen very often. Sometimes never again.

Agreed but they have a reasonable turnover each year and they find good players from within the league and less fashionable leagues.

The big name players with the big price tags are not on their agenda.

 

[MSP]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

Well, then they can forget to be European elite for long in that case.

They can teach their agenda in schools but if you don't spend for top players you won't stay there for long.

Though I don't believe in their agenda bullshit. As one poster already said they were forced to do things like they did because they were broke. They had a luck/did good work and made a most from it but they'll spend with Champions League money and eventual sales, they're not stupid and know it has to be done. Would it be Dzeko or someone else, don't know, but they'll have to spend.

They are big club in Germany, they have huge stadium and if they do things right they can be out there in Europe for years. But not with - "we'll find gems in Wisla and make them stars" policy only.

 

[sincity]

Re: Edin Dzeko legend

Would you then call Aguero/Tevez/Silva/Mario incompetent and ineffective when Edin has to be brought in to rescue the game on 3-4 occasions? He is not a super-sub and he proved his contribution numerous times in the games he did start. He could and should improve on all levels however!! The FACT is that many games this season Tevez/Kun/Mario/Silva started playing "our style of the game" resulting in teams reading and shutting us down until Mancini out of desperation had to play Plan D(zeko).

For folks bashing him for "not adapting" to our tiki-taka style of play here is flip-side: are other City players incapable of making long, precise, out-of-nowhere crosses once in a while toward the f'n box like RVP used to get at Arsenal by Song? Just imagine where would we be if whole team, beginning with Mancini, started to play a bit more utilizing what Edin is best known for - fast-paced attacks - instead of stubbornly drilling the ball through the middle. Teams wouldn't know what hit them !

We don't own players like that. So the decision the club has is whether to buy a player in the hopes that it increases his output, or sell him and buy a player that increases everyone else's output.

Seems like a no brainers. It's a lose-lose situation for Dzeko.

Well, instead of selling Dzeko, wouldn't City be better off getting players like that who could actually ping crosses into the box? You know, put the non-existent Plan B finally into action, when opposing teams know how to defend against our current tactics?