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Edin Dzeko
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You do realise that's all opinion based?BosnianDragon said:BosnianDragon said:I just read an article in Bosnian sports news about Dzeko going together with Mancini to Galatasaray (hard to belive). Apperently it is based on information from English media. If he leaves I don't think he will play that much under Manchini.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.klix.ba/sport/nogomet/britanski-mediji-mancini-bi-mogao-odvesti-dzeku-u-galatasaray/130926071" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.klix.ba/sport/nogomet/britan ... /130926071</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2379543/Manchester-City-battling-Aleksandr-Kolarov-Edin-Dzeko-club.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -club.html</a>
Here is actual English article, found it
<a class="postlink" href="http://hereisthecity.com/2013/09/25/five-manchester-city-players-mancini-could-take-to-galatasaray/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://hereisthecity.com/2013/09/25/fiv ... latasaray/</a>
Could any of these five city stars follow Roberto Mancini into Turkish football, should the Italian take the job.
Galatasaray yesterday fired head coach Fatih Terim after he refused the clubs most recent new contract offer - leaving the Turkish giants with arguably their best squad in a generation without somebody to lead them.
The early bookies favourite for the role is Roberto Mancini - with some reports essentially saying it is a done deal.
The Italian has been out of work since leaving Manchester City toward the end of last season - and Gala are reportedly ready to offer him a sizeable sum of money to take on the role.
But if he was to head to Istanbul, who could he bring with him from his old stooges at Manchester City?
We take a look at five players who could follow Mancini to Turkey…
John Guidetti
Mancini was said to be a big fan of the young Swede - who scored bucket-loads of goals whilst on loan with Feyenoord in the season before last.
Unfortunately the former Inter Milan boss never had the chance to play him for the first team, as he spent the entire 2012-13 season out with a virus of his central nervous system.
Guidetti almost went to Turkey the other week, with Trabzonspor keen - could Mancini bring him East in January.
Gareth Barry
Not many English players go play abroad, but more definitely should - could Barry be a trendsetter?
Mancini was a big fan of the defensive midfielder and procuring him should not be difficult.
His contract expires next summer and City show no sign of keeping hold of him - he could be available for a bargain.
However he is enjoying a loan spell at Everton at the moment - so competition is fierce.
Abdisalam Ibrahim
Another young talent whom Mancini was keen on, the Italian even gave him his debut for the club. But the Norwegian cannot get a look in at City and is now back at Stromsgodset on loan, and leaving for nothing next summer.
Will Mancini remember his talents?
Edin Dzeko
The Bosnian striker should not be a rotation man, he is too good for that - so could Turkey be the perfect destination.
Some might think it is a step down in class for Dzeko to play for Gala - but Didier Drogba and Wesley Sneijder would beg to differ.
The fact Dzeko is also a practicing Muslim could also be a benefit, with players in the past moving to the predominantly Islamic Turkey to practice their religious beliefs.
Javi Garcia
Mancini went big on the former Benfica midfielder, and it has not quite worked out.
The Spaniard could be another shown the exit door by Pellegrini - and Mancini might be able to negotiate a cut-price deal.
Could any of these players head to Galatasaray?
Davs 19
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Zlatan said:Davs 19 said:Zlatan said:Look i told a lot in my posts few pages back. But my mine concern is that the team have TOO MANY TOP STRIKERS IN THE SAME TEAM. Believe me I watch football A LOT and think to have at least basic knowledge. it is very hard do have 3 top strikers in the team and to make them happy. There in NO team in the world who had 4 top striker of top quality or similar is better word and was vary successful. All the teams have the same philosophy. ONE or TWO top strikers, + ONE or TWO ( older - over 32,33, younger up to 23,24 or a player witch is happy just to be in a good club and which knows he will be SUB ).
City has one 40.000.000 EUR striker which is number one and should be + 3 EQUALLY GOOD STRIKERS , FIGHTING FOR 1 PLACE ( Dzeko 27.000.000 EUR, Jovetic 26.000.000 EUR and Negredo 25.000.000 EUR ). This prices are correct and newest from the TRANSFERMARKT which is the best site in the world about transfers.
So here I see a problem , how to make all happy. I really hope i am wrong and i want city to have a big success. But i doubt I am wrong.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/manchester-city/startseite/verein_281.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/manchest ... n_281.html</a>
While I'm not a massive fan of one of them, I think plenty would consider Mario, Carlos, Kun & Edin top strikers and you're right we won nothing with them..........Oh hang on ;.)
Yes the team won the PL title, but was underperforming in the CL. You also must admit that this year the league is stronger than that year. That year United was not so good. Not to mention that this year Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea and even Liverpoool are much much stronger ( in names and in the way they play )than that year. Also Mario and Tevez wanted to go and thay would not have played another year. And why they wanted to go it is because of the same reason i am telling you this whole tread. They all wanted do play.
We won the league with 4 top stickers. 2 decided they wanted to move.
The season after we didn't have four top strikers and won nothing.
Nobody is suggesting that you'll always keep the same four guys happy, it's about replacing well when one decides it's not for him.
What I would have thought was clear is that a good side will always have more chance of winning trophies with 4 top strikers as opposed to 2 or 3.
Sometimes it's just best to put the spade down.
1) Tevez was playing regularlyZlatan said:Davs 19 said:Zlatan said:Look i told a lot in my posts few pages back. But my mine concern is that the team have TOO MANY TOP STRIKERS IN THE SAME TEAM. Believe me I watch football A LOT and think to have at least basic knowledge. it is very hard do have 3 top strikers in the team and to make them happy. There in NO team in the world who had 4 top striker of top quality or similar is better word and was vary successful. All the teams have the same philosophy. ONE or TWO top strikers, + ONE or TWO ( older - over 32,33, younger up to 23,24 or a player witch is happy just to be in a good club and which knows he will be SUB ).
City has one 40.000.000 EUR striker which is number one and should be + 3 EQUALLY GOOD STRIKERS , FIGHTING FOR 1 PLACE ( Dzeko 27.000.000 EUR, Jovetic 26.000.000 EUR and Negredo 25.000.000 EUR ). This prices are correct and newest from the TRANSFERMARKT which is the best site in the world about transfers.
So here I see a problem , how to make all happy. I really hope i am wrong and i want city to have a big success. But i doubt I am wrong.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/manchester-city/startseite/verein_281.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/manchest ... n_281.html</a>
While I'm not a massive fan of one of them, I think plenty would consider Mario, Carlos, Kun & Edin top strikers and you're right we won nothing with them..........Oh hang on ;.)
Yes the team won the PL title, but was underperforming in the CL. You also must admit that this year the league is stronger than that year. That year United was not so good. Not to mention that this year Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea and even Liverpoool are much much stronger ( in names and in the way they play )than that year. Also Mario and Tevez wanted to go and thay would not have played another year. And why they wanted to go it is because of the same reason i am telling you this whole tread. They all wanted do play.
2) That's not the reason Mario or Tevez was sold
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pudge said:1) Tevez was playing regularlyZlatan said:Davs 19 said:While I'm not a massive fan of one of them, I think plenty would consider Mario, Carlos, Kun & Edin top strikers and you're right we won nothing with them..........Oh hang on ;.)
Yes the team won the PL title, but was underperforming in the CL. You also must admit that this year the league is stronger than that year. That year United was not so good. Not to mention that this year Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea and even Liverpoool are much much stronger ( in names and in the way they play )than that year. Also Mario and Tevez wanted to go and thay would not have played another year. And why they wanted to go it is because of the same reason i am telling you this whole tread. They all wanted do play.
2) That's not the reason Mario or Tevez was sold
Tevez had an issue with Mancini, didn't play for almost 1/2 season. Mario was too problematic, eve thought Mancini was giving him more chances then he deserved, he managed to get in conflict with Mancini on the finish of the last season.
Davs 19
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pudge said:1) Tevez was playing regularlyZlatan said:Davs 19 said:While I'm not a massive fan of one of them, I think plenty would consider Mario, Carlos, Kun & Edin top strikers and you're right we won nothing with them..........Oh hang on ;.)
Yes the team won the PL title, but was underperforming in the CL. You also must admit that this year the league is stronger than that year. That year United was not so good. Not to mention that this year Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea and even Liverpoool are much much stronger ( in names and in the way they play )than that year. Also Mario and Tevez wanted to go and thay would not have played another year. And why they wanted to go it is because of the same reason i am telling you this whole tread. They all wanted do play.
2) That's not the reason Mario or Tevez was sold
You're wasting your time pudge.
Davs 19 said:Zlatan said:Davs 19 said:While I'm not a massive fan of one of them, I think plenty would consider Mario, Carlos, Kun & Edin top strikers and you're right we won nothing with them..........Oh hang on ;.)
Yes the team won the PL title, but was underperforming in the CL. You also must admit that this year the league is stronger than that year. That year United was not so good. Not to mention that this year Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea and even Liverpoool are much much stronger ( in names and in the way they play )than that year. Also Mario and Tevez wanted to go and thay would not have played another year. And why they wanted to go it is because of the same reason i am telling you this whole tread. They all wanted do play.
We won the league with 4 top stickers. 2 decided they wanted to move.
The season after we didn't have four top strikers and won nothing.
Nobody is suggesting that you'll always keep the same four guys happy, it's about replacing well when one decides it's not for him.
What I would have thought was clear is that you a good side will always have more chance of winning trophies with 4 top strikers as opposed to 2 or 3.
Sometimes it's just best to put the spade down.
Ok i will try to explain you what i think. And i do not want to offend anybody it is my opinion.
To me it is much better to have 3 good strikers on fire ( playing 110 % ) than 4 very good. Why do i think that way it is because all of good players want to play CL / PL not the Carling/Fa cup. If you have 4 good strikers all cant play. Also if you have 5 good defenders all cant play. Thats way all teams buys 2,3 max. good defenders, not 5 great defenders.
IN FORM HAPPY STRIKER WILL GIVE 110 %. UNHAPPY WILL USUALLY NOT.
So that is why i think in this case 3 would be better, because they will play more than 4
But i would like to be wrong about it, if Dzeko and CIty played well, i will gladly admit that i am wrong.
And there is one really important thing in football. When too many ( PROVEN ) players fight for their spot they are usualy worse than if they dont have to fight. It is beacuse they are under biger pressure and humans in that positon makes a lot more mistakes. When players are not under the pressure thay tend to play better.
Of course it is true YOU HAVE TO HAVE COMPETITION FOR PLACES to increase the quality.
BUT TOO MANY COMPETITION IN PROVEN STRIKERS CAN BE WRONG.
Davs 19
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Zlatan said:Davs 19 said:Zlatan said:Yes the team won the PL title, but was underperforming in the CL. You also must admit that this year the league is stronger than that year. That year United was not so good. Not to mention that this year Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea and even Liverpoool are much much stronger ( in names and in the way they play )than that year. Also Mario and Tevez wanted to go and thay would not have played another year. And why they wanted to go it is because of the same reason i am telling you this whole tread. They all wanted do play.
We won the league with 4 top strikers. 2 decided they wanted to move.
The season after we didn't have four top strikers and won nothing.
Nobody is suggesting that you'll always keep the same four guys happy, it's about replacing well when one decides it's not for him.
What I would have thought was clear is that you a good side will always have more chance of winning trophies with 4 top strikers as opposed to 2 or 3.
Sometimes it's just best to put the spade down.
Ok i will try to explain you what i think. And i do not want to offend anybody it is my opinion.
To me it is much better to have 3 good strikers on fire ( playing 110 % ) than 4 very good. Why do i think that way it is because all of good players want to play CL / PL not the Carling/Fa cup. If you have 4 good strikers all cant play. Also if you have 5 good defenders all cant play. Thats way all teams buys 2,3 max. good defenders, not 5 great defenders.
IN FORM HAPPY STRIKER WILL GIVE 110 %. UNHAPPY WILL USUALLY NOT.
So that is why i think in this case 3 would be better, because they will play more than 4
But i would like to be wrong about it, if Dzeko and CIty played well, i will gladly admit that i am wrong.
And there is one really important thing in football. When too many ( PROVEN ) players fight for their spot they are usualy worse than if they dont have to fight. It is beacuse they are under biger pressure and humans in that positon makes a lot more mistakes. When players are not under the pressure thay tend to play better.
Of course it is true YOU HAVE TO HAVE COMPETITION FOR PLACES to increase the quality.
BUT TOO MANY COMPETITION IN PROVEN STRIKERS CAN BE WRONG.
You didn't really read my previous post properly , did you ?
For that reason, I'm off to talk to the sensible folk.
sir baconface
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Zlatan said:I would like again to apologize to the all viewers about my english, which is not my first language.
Of course he will be rotated with the Negredo. the Big question is in which games will play 1 or other.
Dzeko is good with his head and better in passing when his confidence is high.
As you dont see where i am going. I think I better dont try to explain it. Because in this forum so many people have bad opinion about Dzeko and wont understand it, which doesnt mean it isnt THE TRUTH. I can only said it is mentality thing.
No need to apologise. You have done really well, mate.
Davs 19 said:Zlatan said:Davs 19 said:We won the league with 4 top strikers. 2 decided they wanted to move.
The season after we didn't have four top strikers and won nothing.
Nobody is suggesting that you'll always keep the same four guys happy, it's about replacing well when one decides it's not for him.
What I would have thought was clear is that you a good side will always have more chance of winning trophies with 4 top strikers as opposed to 2 or 3.
Sometimes it's just best to put the spade down.
Ok i will try to explain you what i think. And i do not want to offend anybody it is my opinion.
To me it is much better to have 3 good strikers on fire ( playing 110 % ) than 4 very good. Why do i think that way it is because all of good players want to play CL / PL not the Carling/Fa cup. If you have 4 good strikers all cant play. Also if you have 5 good defenders all cant play. Thats way all teams buys 2,3 max. good defenders, not 5 great defenders.
IN FORM HAPPY STRIKER WILL GIVE 110 %. UNHAPPY WILL USUALLY NOT.
So that is why i think in this case 3 would be better, because they will play more than 4
But i would like to be wrong about it, if Dzeko and CIty played well, i will gladly admit that i am wrong.
And there is one really important thing in football. When too many ( PROVEN ) players fight for their spot they are usualy worse than if they dont have to fight. It is beacuse they are under biger pressure and humans in that positon makes a lot more mistakes. When players are not under the pressure thay tend to play better.
Of course it is true YOU HAVE TO HAVE COMPETITION FOR PLACES to increase the quality.
BUT TOO MANY COMPETITION IN PROVEN STRIKERS CAN BE WRONG.
You didn't really read my previous post properly , did you ?
For that reason, I'm off to talk to the sensible folk.
Maybe i can put it in other way
It is not about keeping all happy it is not my biggest point.
My point is that 4 proven strikers is too much and they usualy underperform.
That is why all the clubs have only 1 or 2 star strikers. I will tell you only in PL but it is the same in all others league.
Man. United:
Rooney, Van Persie ( star strikers ), Chicharito, Welbeck ( subs - they know that they are subs )
Tottenham:
Lamela, Soldado ( starters ), Adebayor, Defoe ( subs - there is no chance that defoe or adebayor will start in big games insted of first two )
I can tell you in that way about all teams. The only exeption is Chelsea wich is at the moment is in BIG MESS.
TORRES ( 29 y old , every year worse than a year before - not the same player than he was in Liverpool )
SCHURRLE (22 y old. was nothing special in germany for me a big mistake of Mourinho,, not clinical enough )
BA ( 28 y old, nothing special , not good enough for chelsea caliber )
ETO ( 32 y. old - too old, last 2 years didint play good football, will need a lot of time to come back IF he menage to do that )
SO in my opinion only in Chelsea team they dont know who is a star striker and who is a SUB. And to add one more thing to me ALL 4 MAN. CITY STRIKERS are better than any CHELSEA striker. Dzeko, Negredo and Aguero and possibly Jovetic would be the FIRST STRIKER in today CHELSEA. I said possibly Jovetic because he is not a real striker he is more behind striker and in that area Chelsea is STRONGEST.
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