Edin Dzeko

[BlueRockape]

Not ONE vote for player of the month ?????

 

[Rolee]

LOOK it is REALLY REALLY SIMPLE.
They have not seen the real Dzeko.
IF THAT YEAR when on the beginning of the year he scored 4 against Tottenham. If just that year Mancini would give him to play the first 10 games with Aguero he would score in that 10 games more than 10, that is more than 20 on the end of season + City would of won MORE GAMES. ( a WIN WIN ).
The same next year. It is the same this year, give him 10 starts with Aguero he will score 10 goals and City will have more points. Dzeko as striker is GROWING with every good game and if he have more on after another is just getting better.
Defenders, Midfielders are different type of players. They can play 1 game you can drop them 10 games and will be almost the same.
But strikers are GROWING with each more goal are getting more confident and so on.
Some people here just dont get it, sadly.

You do realise Dzeko started 9 of our first ten games that season ( inc. Community Shield )?

 

[Zlatan]

LOOK it is REALLY REALLY SIMPLE.
They have not seen the real Dzeko.
IF THAT YEAR when on the beginning of the year he scored 4 against Tottenham. If just that year Mancini would give him to play the first 10 games with Aguero he would score in that 10 games more than 10, that is more than 20 on the end of season + City would of won MORE GAMES. ( a WIN WIN ).
The same next year. It is the same this year, give him 10 starts with Aguero he will score 10 goals and City will have more points. Dzeko as striker is GROWING with every good game and if he have more on after another is just getting better.
Defenders, Midfielders are different type of players. They can play 1 game you can drop them 10 games and will be almost the same.
But strikers are GROWING with each more goal are getting more confident and so on.
Some people here just dont get it, sadly.

You do realise Dzeko started 9 of our first ten games that season ( inc. Community Shield )?

Good players english are noenglish in PL ( in any TOP LEAGUE EXACTLY ) dont give 100 % to Fa cup games to Community shiel even less. They give 100 % to PL games. And that alwasy WAS and always WILL be that way. With Dzeko in this league or not. They even rarely play dose games. By 10 games i mean 10 PL games or CL where he play at least first 80 min.. Not the games when he came as a sub in 70 min.

 

[Rolee]

LOOK it is REALLY REALLY SIMPLE.
They have not seen the real Dzeko.
IF THAT YEAR when on the beginning of the year he scored 4 against Tottenham. If just that year Mancini would give him to play the first 10 games with Aguero he would score in that 10 games more than 10, that is more than 20 on the end of season + City would of won MORE GAMES. ( a WIN WIN ).
The same next year. It is the same this year, give him 10 starts with Aguero he will score 10 goals and City will have more points. Dzeko as striker is GROWING with every good game and if he have more on after another is just getting better.
Defenders, Midfielders are different type of players. They can play 1 game you can drop them 10 games and will be almost the same.
But strikers are GROWING with each more goal are getting more confident and so on.
Some people here just dont get it, sadly.

You do realise Dzeko started 9 of our first ten games that season ( inc. Community Shield )?

Good players english are noenglish in PL ( in any TOP LEAGUE EXACTLY ) dont give 100 % to Fa cup games to Community shiel even less. They give 100 % to PL games. And that alwasy WAS and always WILL be that way. With Dzeko in this league or not. They even rarely play dose games. By 10 games i mean 10 PL games or CL where he play at least first 80 min.. Not the games when he came as a sub in 70 min.

Well they should, they are professionals and 100% should be given every time they put the shirt on.

I'm not talking about games where he came on as a sub, I'm talking about starts. From our first ten games which included Community Shield, 1 League Cup game, 2 CL games and 6 PL games our Edin STARTED 9.

The only game he didn't start was Wigan, he was rested for that one coming off the back of an international week in which he played twice for Bosnia. Tevez was fresh for that game so started instead meaning we had a fresh Dzeko for Napoli 3 days later.

If him being rested for one game can affect his form that much then I would suggest he doesn't have the right mentality to be playing at a club where rotation is inevitable.

 

[pominoz]

Come back to the thread after a while, notice:

1) Anti-Dzeko brigade at full steam (loving it :-))
2) Someone (Zlatan) taking a piss/pissing them off
3) Few neutral, football fans stop by to give objective opinion - but give up instantly.

Same old, same old :-)

The truth is: Dzeko and Negredo will be splitting playing time this season, as they should since they bring many things to the table...Negredo is a beast, Dzeko "only scores goals"...we will need both of them..

End of 700-page story.

You are correct
Their is max. from 5 do 15 posters who dont like, hate or just not see enough quality in Dzeko ( majority of them dont even go to home games )
Their is 5 - 10 Bosnians fans who some unrealisticly adore Dzeko, and some are more realistic of him,
There are hundreds of normal city fans who tell theirs opinion and when one of both camps ( more the anti dzeko camp ) try to attack or insult them they just go way.

As for me i have a lot of posts in few day because I was reading this forum for at least 2 years and I have saw written a lot of bad things, so this frustration coming out that way. ( everybody can see that each day i have been written less posts ).
As for mr. Pominoz, i think he understood me, but just for his advocate i will say that for me there are 3 groups of city fans.
And for me the first group has to have a bit stronger word in all important questions.
1 GROUP ) Fans who actually goes to games, especially away games.
2 GROUP ) Fans who loves this club and because of some reason can not attend games , but being away they still loves their club,( Pominoze, .. )
3 GROUP ) New fans which start coming when City become good club. ( 99 % of all Bosnians, me ).
SO I think fans like Pominoz are more entitled than me and their opinion should have higer weight that mine. But also there is 1 group of fans above the Pominoze group. So the one guy who was slating how dear I to talk to mr. Pominoz, of course deliberately said all wrong.
So i dont have to apologise to anybody.
I HAVE ONLY DISAGREEMENT WITH ONE BOSNIAN FAN AND THAT WAS ME SAYING THAT HE SHOULD NOT BASH ENGLISH FANS. ( i would never go so low as some in here do and constantly lie or make an elefant out of fly - exaggerate ). Oh yes and with one with nick Del Bosque who have 7 post and in his first post was telling me in perfect english that he is also bosnian but he dont think he need to leave - at that point i saw he is not what he is making to be , because much more than 95 % bosnians want Dzeko to leave if he dont star to play more. )
AND FOR ALL OF YOU READING I AM NOT SUPPORTING DZEKO BECAUSE HE IS BOSNIAN I SUPPORT HIM BECAUSE I KNOW HOW GOOD HE IS AND IT IS MORE THAN THIS. ( i would NEVER support a bosnian in XXL team and lying about him that he can be in front of some other player who i know is better than bosnian player, NEVER ). - that is why i always say that Aguero is better than Dzeko and Tevez was slightly better. Balotelli was unfinished product which in his current form was not better than Dzeko or his team was having less profit from him than from Dzeko.
As for Dzeko my opinion stay the same. He is in no way worse than Negredo if you take all in count. Both him and Negredo would want to play the big games the one who want will be unhappy. There is just 1 compromise solution to split the big games and i am happy with that.
ANYTHING ALSE WOULD BE VERY BAD FOR THE CLUB AND DZEKO IN SHORT AND IN LONG TERMS. ( If he would be the one left of this games, or Negredo - the same. ) In that case you will fucked up Dzeko and what if just if you all football geniuses found in few months that Negredo is not so good ( which he is not , he is at least 20 % worse than Tevez and he was hardly delivering it in last year ). That maybe his fisical approach dont necessary means he is good in scoring goals, headers. and so on.

Zlatan, my opinion holds no more weight than anybody else's.
I just hate (and i mean hate) it, when someone that has no real interest in the club i have loved since i was a small kid (over 40 years now, unfortunately) tells me i know fuck all about football and am not a real fan, because i will not join a conga line to suck off their idol.
That goes for if you are a Bosnian or a life long City fan.

 

[Zlatan]

Come back to the thread after a while, notice:

Zlatan, my opinion holds no more weight than anybody else's.
I just hate (and i mean hate) it, when someone that has no real interest in the club i have loved since i was a small kid (over 40 years now, unfortunately) tells me i know fuck all about football and am not a real fan, because i will not join a conga line to suck off their idol.
That goes for if you are a Bosnian or a life long City fan.

I BELIEVE you are a REAL fan. I told you are much bigger fan than 99 % of Bosnians and many inhere. Because to become a real fan you need years ans years. especially in your case you have got fans even in your family. If i insulted you by not knowing a lot about football than sory. I think everybody who watched over 100 games knows enough. And you may know more than me i would not care at all.

 

[Zlatan]

You do realise Dzeko started 9 of our first ten games that season ( inc. Community Shield )?

Good players english are noenglish in PL ( in any TOP LEAGUE EXACTLY ) dont give 100 % to Fa cup games to Community shiel even less. They give 100 % to PL games. And that alwasy WAS and always WILL be that way. With Dzeko in this league or not. They even rarely play dose games. By 10 games i mean 10 PL games or CL where he play at least first 80 min.. Not the games when he came as a sub in 70 min.

Well they should, they are professionals and 100% should be given every time they put the shirt on.

I'm not talking about games where he came on as a sub, I'm talking about starts. From our first ten games which included Community Shield, 1 League Cup game, 2 CL games and 6 PL games our Edin STARTED 9.

The only game he didn't start was Wigan, he was rested for that one coming off the back of an international week in which he played twice for Bosnia. Tevez was fresh for that game so started instead meaning we had a fresh Dzeko for Napoli 3 days later.

If him being rested for one game can affect his form that much then I would suggest he doesn't have the right mentality to be playing at a club where rotation is inevitable.

I know that. With 5% of money they are getting a week I WOULD RUN 90 MINUTES LIKE CRAZY and would give 110 %.
BUT the problems IS good players NEVER WAS and NEVER WILL play CUP games especially at start ( maybe semis and finals ) with 100 %.
And you even mention some lower cup games.
IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. BELIEVE ME NOBODY CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. NO CHANCE !!!!

 

[pudge]

 

[kippaxblue76]

I always ask myself would a player get into the top squads in football, i.e. Barca, Madrid, Bayern etc, that is what we should be measuring ourselves against now and in Dzeko's case it's certainly a no. His overall game just isn't up to it on a consistent basis.

 

[Zlatan]

OK, but the are necessary SOME times.