Empty seats.. worsening trend?

[moon]

Lad next to me works shifts which can see him miss weekend or midweek games if he can't get the time off
Why should he suffer for earning money to go towards his season card
Had season ticket/ card since 1986

 

[bluesoup]

This is getting a bit hot! Empty seats just happen. The club do not have a way to get rid of tickets at late notice and viagogo is just pants! To have a go at people who just can't make it, is just silly. And yes, we could give our seats to those without but, we have plastic cards these days and sorry but, my card stays with me or someone I trust... If the club did a seat donation scheme, I'd gladly give my seat back for a charitable group if I couldn't make it and could not get a few quid for it.

 

[squirtyflower]

I do however give a shit about a waning atmosphere and an increasing number of empty seats during the most successful period in our history because it directly affects my enjoyment and potentially the result.

really? really?

how sad....

Yes, it's pathetic that I enjoy sitting in a stadium with a good atmosphere.

What we should do instead is go the whole hog and get little theatre ushers and guys carrying around popcorn, because God knows it's "sad" to enjoy atmosphere now.

I find it totally sad that people think football clubs are a customer experience where they have no responsibility in anything that goes on apart from to pay their money and sit there watching a game like they're at the Odeon. I find it totally sad that people have no problem with somebody buying a season ticket in the ground and not turning up for 19 matches. I think its totally sad that a poster on here said before that he likes the atmosphere at the ground. I think its totally sad that everybody has a "what about meeeeeeeeeee" attitude to these things instead of "what is best for the club and team?" attitude. I think its totally sad that we've converted one whole side of the ground into a funfair, the outside into a travelling sideshow and half time into a BBC light entertainment special. I think it's totally sad that England is now the laughing stock the world in terms of how they treat their fans and like people with Stockholm Syndrome, a bunch of them suggest that what we need is MORE corporatism and LESS responsibility for fans. I think it's totally sad that people are measuring their "loyalty" to the club by how much money they have put into it for a seasoncard. I think it's totally sad that on a football forum dedicated to the more hardcore of City's support, we have a bunch of people OUTRAGED that something that is roundly good for the club should be a controversial topic because it happens to, potentially, maybe, at some unknown point in the future, possibly, could be affecting them for 10 or 20 loyalty points if it were ever to be brought in.

I think it's totally sad how self entitled some of our fanbase is and think that throwing some money at the club means they're now devoid of any responsibility for the atmosphere, because like every other problem in the world it's somebody else's issue to deal with and its all fine as long as nobody could possibly put them out even the slightest.

Just as a matter of interest, what was the last away game you attended?

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Your losing it now so I'll leave it at that. I wasn't being specific to your post but the one that preceded you where somebody said they would welcome any spares for forces etc. it didn't stop you laying into people who don't share your view

Have a good weekend!

Ha ha, I'm losing it?! That was one of the cheapest, most snide posts I've ever seen on this forum, and even now your shamefacedly trying to prevaricate about your intentions. Have a good weekend my arse. Go fuck yourself

Correction you've lost it! Yes I should have put my post in the right context (that was my mistake) and I wasn't being specific to your post. I even deleted mine so I think you need to grow up.

Congratulations on scrabbling to save your own embarrassment

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Ha ha, I'm losing it?! That was one of the cheapest, most snide posts I've ever seen on this forum, and even now your shamefacedly trying to prevaricate about your intentions. Have a good weekend my arse. Go fuck yourself

Correction you've lost it! Yes I should have put my post in the right context (that was my mistake) and I wasn't being specific to your post. I even deleted mine so I think you need to grow up.

Congratulations on scrabbling to save your own embarrassment

Exeter, a number of posters have given example of service people missing out if City introduced a Bayern type policy on season card renewals and they may well have a point - although I would expect there to be exceptions. I didn't make a song and dance about it!

Likewise, a lack of seats for sale could limit the chances of people watching a game - say at Christmas - who can't go regularly and don't have a season card. Yes I made a mistake in linking my post to yours in error but I do hope you get over it some day.

 

[squirtyflower]

I do however give a shit about a waning atmosphere and an increasing number of empty seats during the most successful period in our history because it directly affects my enjoyment and potentially the result.

really? really?

how sad....

Yes, it's pathetic that I enjoy sitting in a stadium with a good atmosphere. As do I.

What we should do instead is go the whole hog and get little theatre ushers and guys carrying around popcorn, because God knows it's "sad" to enjoy atmosphere now.
Only you have brought this up, the thread is about a few empty seats when people were getting piss wet through so moved to the back, no over-dramatisation here folks!

I find it totally sad that people think football clubs are a customer experience where they have no responsibility in anything that goes on apart from to pay their money and sit there watching a game like they're at the Odeon.
Again this is not what the thread is about, nice way of trying to twist it though.

I find it totally sad that people have no problem with somebody buying a season ticket in the ground and not turning up for 19 matches. OTT again, surely not?

I think its totally sad that a poster on here said before that he likes the atmosphere at the ground. I think its totally sad that everybody has a "what about meeeeeeeeeee" attitude to these things instead of "what is best for the club and team?" attitude.
Who said anything about this? What has been said is that if a person owns something them they have a right to use as they see fit within the laws of the land.

I think its totally sad that we've converted one whole side of the ground into a funfair, the outside into a travelling sideshow and half time into a BBC light entertainment special.

For the third time, this is for a different thread, but I understand you need to get this off your chest

I think it's totally sad that England is now the laughing stock the world in terms of how they treat their fans and like people with Stockholm Syndrome, a bunch of them suggest that what we need is MORE corporatism and LESS responsibility for fans. I think it's totally sad that people are measuring their "loyalty" to the club by how much money they have put into it for a seasoncard. No only you tried to measure this by doing the opposite by saying we lacked responsibility if we missed a few games.

I think it's totally sad that on a football forum dedicated to the more hardcore of City's support, we have a bunch of people OUTRAGED that something that is roundly good for the club should be a controversial topic because it happens to, potentially, maybe, at some unknown point in the future, possibly, could be affecting them for 10 or 20 loyalty points if it were ever to be brought in.

In your opinion of course, although others may think that opinion is complete bullshit

I think it's totally sad how self entitled some of our fanbase is and think that throwing some money at the club means they're now devoid of any responsibility for the atmosphere, because like every other problem in the world it's somebody else's issue to deal with and its all fine as long as nobody could possibly put them out even the slightest.
yawn, and now for the fourth time you have hijacked the thread for something it wasn't about, clearly you feel it's the fault of a few seasoncard holders who miss the odd game

Yes I find it quite sad that you have to rely on others you barely know to fulfil your match going experience

Perhaps before the game you need to meet my wife and tell her she lacks responsibility to City as she didn't turn up for a game last year, one more than me. She got to the ground and then was called to be told a priest was giving her mum the last rites. You know what she should have stayed and watched City, that's real responsibility.

 

[malg]

The only problem is that we have the family stand behind the goal. We play very attractive, attacking football, so there is plenty of goalmouth action. Therefore the empty seats at that end are very, very visible (Aston Villa at home last season was a shocker, considering what was riding on the game). The family stand has been like that for years, and I'm sure people with kids have good reasons to miss some midweek games, or late kick offs, and maybe have to get away early to get the kids home. I'd move the family stand, and make that whole end a 'singing section', maybe call it the '1894 Stand'?

 

[Eccles Blue]

The only problem is that we have the family stand behind the goal. We play very attractive, attacking football, so there is plenty of goalmouth action. Therefore the empty seats at that end are very, very visible (Aston Villa at home last season was a shocker, considering what was riding on the game). The family stand has been like that for years, and I'm sure people with kids have good reasons to miss some midweek games, or late kick offs, and maybe have to get away early to get the kids home. I'd move the family stand, and make that whole end a 'singing section', maybe call it the '1894 Stand'?

But the singers say they need to be near the away fans & they'd probably all move back to the South Stand to join the away fans for the 'banter'!!

 

[kippax_blueboy]

I gave up my two season tickets in 2011 because for all kinds of reasons I found myself getting there less and less.
Work, family and other commitments mean't that I was missing 6 or 7 games a season. Now I go to less because buying tickets ad-hoc is more difficult and more expensive.

There is no right system but having expensive tickets when the games can be moved any time doesnt work for me.

 

[g180aj]

The only problem is that we have the family stand behind the goal. We play very attractive, attacking football, so there is plenty of goalmouth action. Therefore the empty seats at that end are very, very visible (Aston Villa at home last season was a shocker, considering what was riding on the game). The family stand has been like that for
years, and I'm sure people with kids have good reasons to miss some midweek games, or late kick offs, and maybe have to get away early to get the kids home. I'd move the family stand, and make that whole end a 'singing section', maybe call it the '1894 Stand'?

But the singers say they need to be near the away fans & they'd probably all move back to the South Stand to join the away fans for the 'banter'!!

This is where I sit and personally wouldn't want to sit anywhere else, for me this is a must as the atmosphere is created here and recently it has been really poor around the rest of the ground. back on topic where I sit because we all stand my row has around 10 seats yet every game has a minimum of 15 people cramming in and a lot of the rows around me are the same.