Except Sir Alf of course.
England wasting one of the most talented squads ever assembled on Southgate
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Except Sir Alf of course.
DenisHasDoneIt
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Mid table or relegation-threatened PL managers face superior opposition week-in, week-out - and it’s a sink or swim business. This bloke however spends 9 months out of 12 plotting the breakdown of defences in Andorra and Montenegro, and once every 2 years gets given his head in his hands to play with by a better-coached team of comparable talent, and gets hailed a national hero for being on-message about non-football issues.
There isn’t a lot to win in the international game. It’s not the lack of trophies on the sideboard that’s the problem - it’s his vision and his teams’ execution of it on he field that’s the problem. He mistrusts Foden - just as others before him mistrusted flair.
The FA got their guy when they hired him, and he’s doing exactly what he was hired to do. Job for life.
There isn’t a lot to win in the international game. It’s not the lack of trophies on the sideboard that’s the problem - it’s his vision and his teams’ execution of it on he field that’s the problem. He mistrusts Foden - just as others before him mistrusted flair.
The FA got their guy when they hired him, and he’s doing exactly what he was hired to do. Job for life.
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That’s the thing, that hammer fella probably prefers Southgate.
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Ranking England’s last 10 managers - from Taylor to Southgate
Gareth Southgate is leading England into a fourth major tournament
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How dare you!Ranking England’s last 10 managers - from Taylor to Southgate
Gareth Southgate is leading England into a fourth major tournament
He needs moaning out of his job so we can appoint someone worse who can be properly moaned at for more not even getting us into finals.
Same old same old unfortunately.
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Southgate has the job for life as long as he qualifies for the big tournaments which these days is much easier with the expanded formats. He is a lucky manager in that the three tournaments he has led England they have had groups and draws that previous managers would have died for.
His issue is when he comes up against a competent opposition coach with a technically competent team. His in game management is non existent. It was painful watching when we led against Croatia and Italy. Every man and his dog could see what was coming and yet he did zilch!
He was probably let down by players against France especially Kane and Pickford but we hardly created much in that game. We will probably get out of the group stages next year but fail again if we come up against France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Croatia or Portugal.
His issue is when he comes up against a competent opposition coach with a technically competent team. His in game management is non existent. It was painful watching when we led against Croatia and Italy. Every man and his dog could see what was coming and yet he did zilch!
He was probably let down by players against France especially Kane and Pickford but we hardly created much in that game. We will probably get out of the group stages next year but fail again if we come up against France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Croatia or Portugal.
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phew, thought i was going mad.
Actually not that arsed if Southgate stays or goes, he's done a decent job, better than expected and kept a good spirit/unity within the squad with many young players.
but it's obvious whoever England manager is the same cliche abuse will be thrown at him, guess it's part of the job.
squad announcement is just a yearly ritual for internet fans to let off steam.
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pretty much like every single nation in the world then ? except whoever wins the whole tournament.
Ranking England’s last 10 managers - from Taylor to Southgate
Gareth Southgate is leading England into a fourth major tournament
Mate you can throw as many stats and articles at us as you like to try and convince us that Southgate is a great manager, 95% of us aren't buying it.
Years ago the groups for qualifying for tournaments weren't seeded in favour of the big nations. As a result England and a few others didn't make it. This obviously impacted on TV viewing figures and crowds at tournaments. They soon realised their mistake and now qualifying groups are England hammering smaller teams and having maybe two half difficult games against an above average side. As a result we easily qualify.
We get to the tournament and scrape through a relatively easy group again to the knockout stages where we face a team we should beat. If we do that's where it starts to unravel. The chances are we face a decent side for the first time in ages. Southgate is then exposed for what he is, a lower premier league manager at best, or a championship manager, which is more his forte. He would be ideal at Norwich or a similar yo yo team. Romp to promotion looking good, then once he's in the presence of better quality fail miserably and get relegated.
The way the dice is loaded these days a nation like England should always reach the quarter final of a major tournament. If the fa and fans are happy with that stick with Southgate he can't fail.
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Not forgetting we're shit to watch. I watch all England games and want us to do well, but considering the side we can put out, there seems very little cohesion and even less entertainment. Beyond boring most games.