England wasting one of the most talented squads ever assembled on Southgate

[bobbyowenquiff]

Mate you can throw as many stats and articles at us as you like to try and convince us that Southgate is a great manager, 95% of us aren't buying it.

Years ago the groups for qualifying for tournaments weren't seeded in favour of the big nations. As a result England and a few others didn't make it. This obviously impacted on TV viewing figures and crowds at tournaments. They soon realised their mistake and now qualifying groups are England hammering smaller teams and having maybe two half difficult games against an above average side. As a result we easily qualify.

We get to the tournament and scrape through a relatively easy group again to the knockout stages where we face a team we should beat. If we do that's where it starts to unravel. The chances are we face a decent side for the first time in ages. Southgate is then exposed for what he is, a lower premier league manager at best, or a championship manager, which is more his forte. He would be ideal at Norwich or a similar yo yo team. Romp to promotion looking good, then once he's in the presence of better quality fail miserably and get relegated.

The way the dice is loaded these days a nation like England should always reach the quarter final of a major tournament. If the fa and fans are happy with that stick with Southgate he can't fail.

Virtually all international games are against sub-standard teams. It is lower than Championship level. Even the WC is poor till the later stages. Southgate has found his level. It is where he took Middlesborough,

 

[Cobra]

There are 9 players who came through City’s academy in the latest U21 squad (Trafford, C Doyle, THB, Wilson-Esbrand, Lewis, McAtee, Palmer, Edozie and Delap)

 

[BlueHammer85]

Not forgetting we're shit to watch. I watch all England games and want us to do well, but considering the side we can put out, there seems very little cohesion and even less entertainment. Beyond boring most games.

that's international football as a whole.

 

[paulchapo]

that's international football as a whole.

It should be scrapped. Nobody wants it. Well.maybe smaller nations for some cash and exposure.

 

[Ithryn Luin]

pretty much like every single nation in the world then ? except whoever wins the whole tournament.

I realise you love to brown nose Southgate from your previous posts, but your sarcasm falls down when the facts show we have only beaten one of those teams in knockout stages since 1966!

 

[DenisHasDoneIt]

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England are currently ranked 4th in the world. 2nd in Europe. I was pretty staggered to find us that high. But how many teams in the top ten would I be confident of us beating? I can’t think of a single one.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I realise you love to brown nose Southgate from your previous posts, but your sarcasm falls down when the facts show we have only beaten one of those teams in knockout stages since 1966!

and what's our record in the 70's/80's/90's got to do with Southgate and our current crop of young lads?

 

[BlueHammer85]

Men's Ranking

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England are currently ranked 4th in the world. 2nd in Europe. I was pretty staggered to find us that high. But how many teams in the top ten would I be confident of us beating? I can’t think of a single one.

how many top nations would be confident of beating England ?

reminder of our recent results. 1 defeat in our last 10. we was also top scorers at the world cup which is strange considering how negative and boring we are.

and we can only play what's in front of us.

26 September2022–23 UEFA Nations League A Group 3

England

3–3

Germany

showLondon, England

21 November2022 FIFA World Cup Group B

England

6–2

Iran

showAl Rayyan, Qatar

25 November2022 FIFA World Cup Group B

England

0–0

United States

showAl Khor, Qatar

29 November2022 FIFA World Cup Group B

Wales

0–3

England

showAl Rayyan, Qatar

4 December2022 FIFA World Cup Round of 16

England

3–0

Senegal

showAl Khor, Qatar

10 December2022 FIFA World Cup Quarter-final

England

1–2

France

showAl Khor, Qatar

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23 MarchUEFA Euro 2024 qualifying Group C

Italy

1–2

England

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26 MarchUEFA Euro 2024 qualifying Group C

England

2–0

Ukraine

showLondon, England

16 JuneUEFA Euro 2024 qualifying Group C

Malta

0–4

England

showTa' Qali, Malta

19 JuneUEFA Euro 2024 qualifying Group C

England

7–0

North Macedonia

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

What is really needed in these situations is for the media to come up with some scandal about Gareth then they can get rid of him. That's how it's worked over the years. Cmon media get some juice on him. We need to stop this relative success!

 

[Ithryn Luin]

and what's our record in the 70's/80's/90's got to do with Southgate and our current crop of young lads?

Because old bean the point is your hero is incapable of changing this regardless of the fact he has the most talented group of players since 1970!