Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[somapop]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Cheers Petrusha.

Anyhoo...I think if we hear anything re the collar site it will be, at the very least, until after the WC.

The speed of the academy (despite, perhaps a delay in the finish date) is outstanding.
It wasn't that long ago the site looked like this:

I really like this image, particularly around the spirals...it's got that new world modern, Dubai look to it. Does anybody know if the spirals are having anything done to them? They don't really look like the existing concrete on this picture (too large to insert image and can't find smaller version):

http://oi39.tinypic.com/14sio1w.jpg

 

[CityStu]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Can anyone point me towards a map of the collar site? Got a feeling it's larger than the picture I have in my head!

 

[jrb]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

The first proper flythrough of the Beswick Community Hub. Looks great! :-)

Click on the link at the bottom of the article to watch the video.

Manchester Evening News.

Cheque, mate? 'B of the Bang' cash pays for £341,000 giant chess pieces coming to Beswick

City bosses promise the new statues are 'stainless steel and sturdy'

A public sculpture styled on giant chess pieces is coming to Beswick - and council bosses promise it won’t 'do a B of the Bang' and fall apart.

Created by artist Ryan Gander and dubbed ‘Dad’s Halo Effect’, the £341,000 work has been built using the refund from the B of the Bang - the 184ft structure taken down in 2009 after a succession of spikes fell off.

It will be centrepiece to the Beswick regeneration project, unveiled in September.

It’s composed of a trio of 3m high highly polished stainless steel sculptures in a checkmate position.

Mr Gander, whose other public works are in New York and London, lived in Miles Platting while studying interactive arts at Manchester Metropolitan University.

He says it’s impossible to know which piece is on which side - harking to the adage it’s not the winning but the taking part that counts.

The work is also based on the steering mechanism of a commercial Bedford truck - originally described to Ryan by his father who worked for General Motors.

It is this meaning and back story that Ryan refers to as the ‘halo effect’.

In a video link from Singapore at the Beswick Library design launch, he added: “I really like the idea that physically objects can be the same but there is a story or history associated with them that makes them more, that’s why they are valuable. The halo effect refers also to all the other possible stories with the work - what the work means to everyone else, to footballers at the academy or students, all the people who use the space, and if it remains open in its ability to tell different stories then I think the work resists closure and can just go on forever.”

Richard Leese, council leader, said the B of the Bang budget was being well-spent.

He added: “This comes from the refund on the B of the Bang. I loved it and it was an enormous shame it didn’t work from an engineering perspective.

“The refund could only be used for public art and that’s what we are doing now.”

Coinciding with a Ryan Gander exhibition at Manchester Art Gallery opening July 3, the gallery will host a month of community art education workshops with Beswick schools and groups, some led by Ryan.

Click on the link to see the flythrough. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/new-public-art-for-beswick-7224983" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ck-7224983</a>

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Manchester thanks Sheikh Mansour! :-)

 

[fbloke]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Can anyone point me towards a map of the collar site? Got a feeling it's larger than the picture I have in my head!

The collar site is the area to the right of the stadium in this image.

There is a wider area to the north and east that City already own and other parcels of land that will fall under the control of the MCFC/MCC JV (joint venture)

 

[Centurions]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Cheers Petrusha.

Anyhoo...I think if we hear anything re the collar site it will be, at the very least, until after the WC.

The speed of the academy (despite, perhaps a delay in the finish date) is outstanding.
It wasn't that long ago the site looked like this:

I really like this image, particularly around the spirals...it's got that new world modern, Dubai look to it. Does anybody know if the spirals are having anything done to them? They don't really look like the existing concrete on this picture (too large to insert image and can't find smaller version):

http://oi39.tinypic.com/14sio1w.jpg

[bigimg]http://i39.tinypic.com/14sio1w.jpg[/bigimg]

Use the bigimg tag.

 

[Centurions]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Can anyone point me towards a map of the collar site? Got a feeling it's larger than the picture I have in my head!

The collar site is the area to the right of the stadium in this image.

There is a wider area to the north and east that City already own and other parcels of land that will fall under the control of the MCFC/MCC JV (joint venture)

Including potentially the Asda and carpark which just gets in the shot at center right.

 

[fbloke]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Can anyone point me towards a map of the collar site? Got a feeling it's larger than the picture I have in my head!

The collar site is the area to the right of the stadium in this image.

There is a wider area to the north and east that City already own and other parcels of land that will fall under the control of the MCFC/MCC JV (joint venture)

Including potentially the Asda and carpark which just gets in the shot at center right.

If the rumours are true, yes. But that is outside of what is understood as the Collar Site.

 

[CityStu]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Cheers both! Much appreciated.

 

[Centurions]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

The collar site is the area to the right of the stadium in this image.

There is a wider area to the north and east that City already own and other parcels of land that will fall under the control of the MCFC/MCC JV (joint venture)

Including potentially the Asda and carpark which just gets in the shot at center right.

If the rumours are true, yes. But that is outside of what is understood as the Collar Site.

Is that not purely because we don't own it (yet). Presumably it'll get rolled into the same scheme and give them room to expand further the plans? Unless the plans are about to be revealed of course.

 

[80s Shorts]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

The first proper flythrough of the Beswick Community Hub. Looks great! :-)

Click on the link at the bottom of the article to watch the video.

Manchester Evening News.

Cheque, mate? 'B of the Bang' cash pays for £341,000 giant chess pieces coming to Beswick

City bosses promise the new statues are 'stainless steel and sturdy'

A public sculpture styled on giant chess pieces is coming to Beswick - and council bosses promise it won’t 'do a B of the Bang' and fall apart.

Created by artist Ryan Gander and dubbed ‘Dad’s Halo Effect’, the £341,000 work has been built using the refund from the B of the Bang - the 184ft structure taken down in 2009 after a succession of spikes fell off.





















It will be centrepiece to the Beswick regeneration project, unveiled in September.

It’s composed of a trio of 3m high highly polished stainless steel sculptures in a checkmate position.

Mr Gander, whose other public works are in New York and London, lived in Miles Platting while studying interactive arts at Manchester Metropolitan University.

He says it’s impossible to know which piece is on which side - harking to the adage it’s not the winning but the taking part that counts.

The work is also based on the steering mechanism of a commercial Bedford truck - originally described to Ryan by his father who worked for General Motors.

It is this meaning and back story that Ryan refers to as the ‘halo effect’.

In a video link from Singapore at the Beswick Library design launch, he added: “I really like the idea that physically objects can be the same but there is a story or history associated with them that makes them more, that’s why they are valuable. The halo effect refers also to all the other possible stories with the work - what the work means to everyone else, to footballers at the academy or students, all the people who use the space, and if it remains open in its ability to tell different stories then I think the work resists closure and can just go on forever.”

Richard Leese, council leader, said the B of the Bang budget was being well-spent.

He added: “This comes from the refund on the B of the Bang. I loved it and it was an enormous shame it didn’t work from an engineering perspective.

“The refund could only be used for public art and that’s what we are doing now.”

Coinciding with a Ryan Gander exhibition at Manchester Art Gallery opening July 3, the gallery will host a month of community art education workshops with Beswick schools and groups, some led by Ryan.

Click on the link to see the flythrough. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/new-public-art-for-beswick-7224983" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ck-7224983</a>

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Manchester thanks Sheikh Mansour! :-)

I rather liked the "B" of the Bang.. These things just look like giant perfume bottles. Awful imo.

 

[fbloke]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Including potentially the Asda and carpark which just gets in the shot at center right.

If the rumours are true, yes. But that is outside of what is understood as the Collar Site.

Is that not purely because we don't own it (yet). Presumably it'll get rolled into the same scheme and give them room to expand further the plans? Unless the plans are about to be revealed of course.

FWIW the council own the land and lease it to ASDA.

Now if the council happened to have a parcel of land elsewhere that was of proportionate size then it is not beyond reason that a swap deal could be sorted out.

I think that has already been agreed but that ASDA are being allowed to continue to trade until any new store is up and running.

We may also find that any new store comes with a freehold option to sweeten the deal for ASDA.

 

[moggymoz]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Can anyone point me towards a map of the collar site? Got a feeling it's larger than the picture I have in my head!

The collar site is the area to the right of the stadium in this image.

There is a wider area to the north and east that City already own and other parcels of land that will fall under the control of the MCFC/MCC JV (joint venture)

Can see a train station coming along in the not too distant future ;)

 

[jrb]

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It's coming thick and fast.

Manchester Evening News.

Gallery: First look at new artist impressions of £11m Belle Vue Sports Village

Jun 05, 2014 14:31
By Richard Wheatstone

Plans are expected to be submitted to town hall planners later this month and a public consultation event will launch from next week

Artist impressions for the new Belle Vue Sports Village on Kirkmanshulme Lane, Gorton

New artist impressions of a planned £11m transformation of a sports complex in east Manchester have been revealed.

Plans to build a new 6,000-capacity speedway stadium, a national basketball centre and two state-of-the-art 3G football pitches are set to be put before town hall planning chiefs later this month.

New computerised images give a first look at the current proposals and how the area could look if the plans are given the green light.

A series of public consultation events will begin from next week with local residents being asked to help shape the plans before their submission.

It is hoped the centre, off Kirkmanshulme Lane, Gorton, will host speedway Grand Prix and international basketball events and is part of a wider regeneration of the east Manchester area.

The majority of the project will be paid for with council cash but it is hoped around half of the £10m contribution will be recouped by renting the speedway stadium back to Belle Vue Aces.

Coun Jeff Smith, executive member for housing and regeneration at Manchester council, said: The development will sit at the heart of the Gorton area and will become a major asset that the local community will be encouraged to take full advantage of.

“We would urge anyone in the local community to come forward with their views on the proposals for Belle Vue Sports Village.”

The speedway stadium would boast a 1,800-seat grandstand which would allow the Aces to compete in speedway’s Elite League.

The national basketball centre will feature a 2,000-seater main match court.

David Gordon, chief executive officer at Belle Vue speedway, said:

“It’s the massive step forward.

“We are delighted that our plans to keep Belle Vue where it belongs, in the Belle Vue area where the club has raced since being formed in 1928, are really moving ahead.

“There is strong support for the Sports Village in Gorton already but we want residents to know that their best interests have been thoroughly discussed and catered for.”

The first consultation event will be held at Gorton Library on June 10.

Further events will also follow on June 14 at Gorton Market, June 18 at Belle Vue Leisure Centre and June 19 at Mount Road Sure Start Centre.

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[DiscoSteve]

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Garbage - Manchester is losing its premier Hockey Centre (used at the Commonwealth Games and hosted a European Championships) which is enjoyed by thousands of all ages playing hockey so that a few hundred people can watch motorbikes go round a cinder track?
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[fbloke]

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It's rather to sad to see the last bit of the old Belle Vue that will soon offer nothing more than greyhound racing.

And how long will that last before the bulldozers do away with that as well?

 

[moggymoz]

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Garbage - Manchester is losing its premier Hockey Centre (used at the Commonwealth Games and hosted a European Championships) which is enjoyed by thousands of all ages playing hockey so that a few hundred people can watch motorbikes go round a cinder track?
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More worried about what's going to happen to the Dogs (Greyhound racing)

 

[Centurions]

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Garbage - Manchester is losing its premier Hockey Centre (used at the Commonwealth Games and hosted a European Championships) which is enjoyed by thousands of all ages playing hockey so that a few hundred people can watch motorbikes go round a cinder track?
[bigimg]http://stevenicklin.com/images/random/bellevuehockey.jpg[/bigimg]

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More worried about what's going to happen to the Dogs (Greyhound racing)[/quote]
I thought the 2 hockey pitches were being replaced by 1 top quality wet(?) pitch somewhere?

 

[Nixon_The_Bike_Thief]

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Garbage - Manchester is losing its premier Hockey Centre (used at the Commonwealth Games and hosted a European Championships) which is enjoyed by thousands of all ages playing hockey so that a few hundred people can watch motorbikes go round a cinder track?

Thank god, some serious motor sport as opposed to high speed croquet with upside down walking sticks !
;o)

 

[DiscoSteve]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

there are TWO top quality wet pitches right now close to the Centre Buildings - as far as I can see it will be reduced to just one pitch either in the centre of the stadium or right down far end

I think the Greyhound Stadium will be OK - it is just reverting back to what it was, a Greyhound-exclusive stadium - whether the loss of revenue because of the move away of speedway will kill it or not is the only question

 

[petrusha]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Can see a train station coming along in the not too distant future ;)

I've been banging on about this for years. When City moved to the new stadium, they looked at the goods line that runs by the west side of the stadium and the possibility of reopening it for passenger traffic. At the time it wasn't financially viable, but developments since then could change that, I suspect.

there are TWO top quality wet pitches right now close to the Centre Buildings - as far as I can see it will be reduced to just one pitch either in the centre of the stadium or right down far end

I think the Greyhound Stadium will be OK - it is just reverting back to what it was, a Greyhound-exclusive stadium - whether the loss of revenue because of the move away of speedway will kill it or not is the only question

This story is one of many stating that the two hockey pitches will be replaced by a single 3G grass pitch for multi-sport use (football, hockey and others) - <a class="postlink" href="http://www.itv.com/news/granada/2013-04-10/10m-belle-vue-sports-village-plans-unveiled/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.itv.com/news/granada/2013-04 ... -unveiled/</a>

In addition, it appears that the grass pitch in the middle of the speedway stadium will now be a school/community rugby league pitch. Original reports suggested that it would be used to host major hockey events, but I can't really see hockey and RL being compatible.

I don't know much about hockey anyway, but a guy who does tells me that grass pitches - even 3G - aren't great for the sport, and they've lost one of their pitches as well so you can see why the hockey community are unhappy. And I'm not thrilled, either: the new stuff at Belle Vue sports village is great, but surely the point is to build on the sports facilities East Manchester currently offers, not lose some as we acquire others? Maybe something can be done for hockey at the Beswick Hub?

On another tack, being abroad now I don't follow stuff like this, but I did speak to someone recently who's been quite good in the past for information about the developments on the Etihad Campus. He suggested that he still thought a professional rugby (union) club will end up playing in East Manc. The only possibility I see for this is if the athletics arena is relocated (as the Council, in the Eastlands Regeneration Framework, has suggested may happen eventually if commercially viable plans are put forward for redeveloping the land to the west of the stadium).

Given that the collar site will be done in phases and we don't even yet know officially what's going on that land, we're presumably talking the 2020s before that can happen. However, I do note that Sale's move to Salford really hasn't worked out and they were reported in the middle of the season just ended to be looking at options for a new home: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/sale-sharks-may-move-again-6650602" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... in-6650602</a>

None of the options suggested seems a good fit for anything other than a temporary base given that they want somewhere in the centre of Greater Manchester. I've always believed that at or adjacent to the Etihad Campus would be a good fit for them, and I believe there are people with much more clout than I have who think the same.

This is obviously speculative on my part. Still, I thought I'd throw it out there given that I heard it mentioned again recently.