Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread
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Marvin.
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Looking at the image of the North Stand above, will the front of the new roof offer the same coverage as the existing roof (wrt the fans in the front rows)?
For next season? That would be good as any text on the NS ones is hardly readable from SSL3 ...
only if you are an FOC not wearing glasses
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Gordyola
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Im sure it will extend to cover the front rows however the height of the roof will make it more open than it was previously and my bet is depending upon the wind direction then there is every chance of wet rows
Gordyola
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Someone posted that the screens are being upgraded for next season there wasn't anymore detail than that
A number of years ago during a fan seminar the club said that they were planning a screen in each corner and also to have live action during the game, at the time there wasn't
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Just had a look at one of the latest drone videos of it. Incredible project. Its going to be amazing.
Saddleworth2
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Like in the East stand :-(
nmc
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The front 5 rows will be sold to tourists as the ‘old Trafford experience’. You get soaking wet if it rains but I’m sure they’ll lap it up.
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Each time I look at the stadium I do tend to think it would have looked much better keeping the ground in an oval and building a fan park, offices and hotel on the site to the East of the Ethiad, (Collar site?). Surely this would have been an easier build logistically and maybe even allowing greater scope for design of the different elements and even potential expansion of the stadium. However, the fact that potentially easier route has not been taken leads me to think that City already have some very other plans for building on the Collar site and the land has been earmarked for big things in the future
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It’s not really about the look - it’s about the function. Your idea would also have no barring on any current or future expansion.
The entire design is built around City Square and having that enclosed space where fans go before and after a game. It’s also designed as a location for attendees of Co-Op Live to go before a concert.
The fanzone is also in the perfect place, at the top of Joe Mercy Way and opposite the tram stops. Having it offset, where more people have to go out of their way to get to it, would just make it less popular. For example the current club shop gets less custom on a match day than it did when it was based in the City Square location. The new club shop will be built into the new complex in that prime location along with places to eat and drink.
It’s all laid out to deliver the best experience (and most income) possible. The idea the buildings might have looked better 200m away from the stadium isn’t really a consideration as it would lead only to a lesser experience.
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Stunning £500m indoor cricket stadium plans explored and could reshape game
The ECB is looking to build a state-of-the-art indoor cricket stadium. It would be the first venue of its kind in the UK and the biggest infrastructure project in English cricket history. The plans…
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Didn't city originally offer to build a purpose built indoor cricket ground as part of the campus to try and tempt Lancs from Old Trafford ?
Well remembered Blue Peanut.Stunning £500m indoor cricket stadium plans explored and could reshape game
The ECB is looking to build a state-of-the-art indoor cricket stadium. It would be the first venue of its kind in the UK and the biggest infrastructure project in English cricket history. The plans…
Didn't city originally offer to build a purpose built indoor cricket ground as part of the campus to try and tempt Lancs from Old Trafford ?
I'd forgot about that.
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And before you start, if it's built on the campus, the tram will be fine.Stunning £500m indoor cricket stadium plans explored and could reshape game
The ECB is looking to build a state-of-the-art indoor cricket stadium. It would be the first venue of its kind in the UK and the biggest infrastructure project in English cricket history. The plans…
Didn't city originally offer to build a purpose built indoor cricket ground as part of the campus to try and tempt Lancs from Old Trafford ?
nmc
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That worked out well… the Cricket ground redevelopment is bloody awful.Stunning £500m indoor cricket stadium plans explored and could reshape game
The ECB is looking to build a state-of-the-art indoor cricket stadium. It would be the first venue of its kind in the UK and the biggest infrastructure project in English cricket history. The plans…
Didn't city originally offer to build a purpose built indoor cricket ground as part of the campus to try and tempt Lancs from Old Trafford ?
Isn’t there a supposed mock up idea of the campus years from with a cricket ground ?Stunning £500m indoor cricket stadium plans explored and could reshape game
The ECB is looking to build a state-of-the-art indoor cricket stadium. It would be the first venue of its kind in the UK and the biggest infrastructure project in English cricket history. The plans…
Didn't city originally offer to build a purpose built indoor cricket ground as part of the campus to try and tempt Lancs from Old Trafford ?
Would be great if it was on the campus a Manchester team in Manchester. Maybe Lancashire can get a team in Lancashire
Also would like CFG to be multi sport
eyalluvitt
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The proposal was nothing to do with City. In 2004 and 2005, Lancashire faced Old Trafford losing Test status as it had been badly neglected over the years and needed serious redevelopment to continue to meet ECB criteria. There was a school of thought that it would be more cost-efficient to build a new ground rather than redevelop the old one.
The Council came up with a proposal to build a Test-level cricket ground with a capacity of over 20,000 on the North Car Parks. At the time, Manchester was also campaigning to be awarded the Super Casino and below is a speculative masterplan for the area around the stadium drawn up at the time by the architects Sheppard Robson. The cricket ground is at the top, while there are enhanced tennis and athletics facilities (as was rumoured at the time), while the casino plus a hotel and other leisure and retail facilities are alongside the eastern side of the stadium.
Lancashire ended up deciding in 2006 to stay at Old Trafford because of a plan to regenerate the surrounding area that involved the opening of a big new Tesco store, with Tesco footing the bill for a lot of the other work (I forget the details now). But the former CEO of Lancashire, Jim Cumbes, has since said that if they'd ever left Old Trafford, they'd more likely have accepted a rival offer from Wigan because the local council there were more generous with the proposed terms than MCC were to get them into East Manchester.
The proposed new Manchester cricket venue with a roof seems to me at this stage to be pretty speculative. For one thing, it's based on a similar proposal in Tasmania which is currently under discussion. And even in the last couple of days, the cricket authority has been kicking off over the proposed design and in particular that the roof might cast shadows over the central part of the playing area, where the actual wicket is.
For another, it's more financially viable because stadiums with big playing areas such as are needed for cricket are used in Australia for Aussie Rules as well. For year-round operability, wouldn't you want a new roofed cricket ground to be capable of use for football or rugby? And, unlike with the AFL where it's not needed, surely the cost of retractable seating to get spectators sufficiently close to the action would be prohibitive?
Anyway, it'd be nice in some ways to think that, if the idea ever gets off the ground, East Manchester might steal it away from the shysters currently championing the proposals for the area surrounding the swamp. I think those discussions, if they're ever to take place, are some way away for now, though.
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Thanks for confirming that I wasn't imagining things !The proposal was nothing to do with City. In 2004 and 2005, Lancashire faced Old Trafford losing Test status as it had been badly neglected over the years and needed serious redevelopment to continue to meet ECB criteria. There was a school of thought that it would be more cost-efficient to build a new ground rather than redevelop the old one.
The Council came up with a proposal to build a Test-level cricket ground with a capacity of over 20,000 on the North Car Parks. At the time, Manchester was also campaigning to be awarded the Super Casino and below is a speculative masterplan for the area around the stadium drawn up at the time by the architects Sheppard Robson. The cricket ground is at the top, while there are enhanced tennis and athletics facilities (as was rumoured at the time), while the casino plus a hotel and other leisure and retail facilities are alongside the eastern side of the stadium.
Lancashire ended up deciding in 2006 to stay at Old Trafford because of a plan to regenerate the surrounding area that involved the opening of a big new Tesco store, with Tesco footing the bill for a lot of the other work (I forget the details now). But the former CEO of Lancashire, Jim Cumbes, has since said that if they'd ever left Old Trafford, they'd more likely have accepted a rival offer from Wigan because the local council there were more generous with the proposed terms than MCC were to get them into East Manchester.
The proposed new Manchester cricket venue with a roof seems to me at this stage to be pretty speculative. For one thing, it's based on a similar proposal in Tasmania which is currently under discussion. And even in the last couple of days, the cricket authority has been kicking off over the proposed design and in particular that the roof might cast shadows over the central part of the playing area, where the actual wicket is.
For another, it's more financially viable because stadiums with big playing areas such as are needed for cricket are used in Australia for Aussie Rules as well. For year-round operability, wouldn't you want a new roofed cricket ground to be capable of use for football or rugby? And, unlike with the AFL where it's not needed, surely the cost of retractable seating to get spectators sufficiently close to the action would be prohibitive?
Anyway, it'd be nice in some ways to think that, if the idea ever gets off the ground, East Manchester might steal it away from the shysters currently championing the proposals for the area surrounding the swamp. I think those discussions, if they're ever to take place, are some way away for now, though.
Seemed a no brainer to me at the time to propose a cricket ground with a roof on, but understand LCCC not wanting to relocate from their spiritual home. They have done great work in developing Old Trafford but the mish mash of stands have left it looking like a modernised Maine Road !