Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[JASR]

I’m not sure if you are new to this thread but there are a few hundred pages and load of photos about an arena they are currently building next door to the Etihad.

Maybe take a few hours to read through all the thread from the start and you might realise there will be an extra 2,750,000 people per year on the site from the end of next year.

As for you using Old Trafford as an example…dearie me…..I presume you have never been there for a look at all their investment in the vicinity of the stadium

Lex’s got an odd , or rather, quite a focussed set of posts since joining in Sept.
purely about the etihad stadium and surrounding area.

seems like someone’s almost fishing for info, or trying to direct a narrative

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I'm not sure how you interpreted my post as saying that. We're going to expand the NS and then, in the future, we'll probably do both side stands as well and replace the four corners creating something that's up near 80k. What I'm talking about is whether we could sell out hospitality across an entire second tier provision around the ground ala Club Wembley - as Tolmie mentioned earlier today. The main issues for me are that we have a rival the other side of town who, whilst facilities aren't as good, still compete with us for that market and also the fact it looks shite when it's half empty or when the corporates stay inside talking business rather than watching the football. It's always bothered me with Wembley. It's front and centre on camera and yet empty long before HT, long after the game re-starts and long before the final whistle. Bit like the Etihad then eh?! I've changed my mind!

There is also the issue that corporate hospitality will take a significant hit over the next few years, based purely on the economy being in the toilet.

If anything, more areas need to accommodate those people who want to be at the game, come rain or shine, but their wallets might not afford them the regular luxury.

I'd have an entire £10 end for everyone below the age of 20. That's how you grab and retain the next generation and improve the atmosphere overnight.

 

[blueparrot]

There is also the issue that corporate hospitality will take a significant hit over the next few years, based purely on the economy being in the toilet.

If anything, more areas need to accommodate those people who want to be at the game, come rain or shine, but their wallets might not afford them the regular luxury.

I'd have an entire £10 end for everyone below the age of 20. That's how you grab and retain the next generation and improve the atmosphere overnight.

I don't really disagree with you, on the other hand I had more disposable income at 20 than in my early 30. My early 30s was the only time I stopped going to footall for finacial reasons. marriage, children new business. It will be people in that position struggling the most.

 

[cptaidan88]

I take your point onboard mate, but shouldn’t we be catering for our games with the biggest demand, not our smallest demand?

Not if it means turfing long time supporters out of those areas. Just my opinion.

 

[supercity88]

There is also the issue that corporate hospitality will take a significant hit over the next few years, based purely on the economy being in the toilet.

If anything, more areas need to accommodate those people who want to be at the game, come rain or shine, but their wallets might not afford them the regular luxury.

I'd have an entire £10 end for everyone below the age of 20. That's how you grab and retain the next generation and improve the atmosphere overnight.

It's probably a universal opinion amongst City fans that having a good hospitality provision is fine, as long as that's used to offset cheaper seats for a more dedicated, hardcore fanbase. The 3rd tier offering in the SS was a good one with the cheap prices but having a new home end at the NS with safe standing and a large single/two tiers as seen in other new stadia is what would really the whet the appetite with new and existing supporters. I don't think it's necessarily an issue having three tiers, I think the angle of the roof instantly will improve atmosphere. If and when the side stands are expanded and the corners replaced the roof angle and shape of the stadium will ensure noise is retained and it will be incredible regardless of how many tiers are behind the goal. But for marketing purposes having a "wall" would entice a lot of people.

 

[LEXSTARproject]

Where the fuck are we supposed to fit a lake? We've got a perfectly good canal, if we had a lake there wouldn't be enough asda trolleys to fill it, I'm not sure you have thought this through at all

Was not meaning add a lake was just showing you what could be done to create a destination by using ideas from elsewhere.

 

[LEXSTARproject]

It's probably a universal opinion amongst City fans that having a good hospitality provision is fine, as long as that's used to offset cheaper seats for a more dedicated, hardcore fanbase. The 3rd tier offering in the SS was a good one with the cheap prices but having a new home end at the NS with safe standing and a large single/two tiers as seen in other new stadia is what would really the whet the appetite with new and existing supporters. I don't think it's necessarily an issue having three tiers, I think the angle of the roof instantly will improve atmosphere. If and when the side stands are expanded and the corners replaced the roof angle and shape of the stadium will ensure noise is retained and it will be incredible regardless of how many tiers are behind the goal. But for marketing purposes having a "wall" would entice a lot of people.

Well said supercity

 

[Maly]

Not if it means turfing long time supporters out of those areas. Just my opinion.

Ah ok, that’s where we will differ then bud. If it’s to the benefit of the club, even if it means pissing those off who have to move seats, I’m all for it x

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Was not meaning add a lake was just showing you what could be done to create a destination by using ideas from elsewhere

That LA crowd are hard cases.
Not too many lakes near the L A Lakers.
Move a team from Minnesota ( I think) to LA and rob their name too.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I don't really disagree with you, on the other hand I had more disposable income at 20 than in my early 30. My early 30s was the only time I stopped going to footall for finacial reasons. marriage, children new business. It will be people in that position struggling the most.

Maybe the times are a changing. Most 20-year-olds now are either back living at home or accumulating student debt.

Younger people also have more options to spend their money on and if you don't have them as regulars by the time they are 20, all you will attract is the thirtysomethings who only want to come to the big games and have the cash to do so.

It's a two-way street, reward the loyalty of younger fans.

It gets my goat I can't take my 15-year-old to his first ever away game outside of Wembley, because we 'only' have 11k points each, despite him coming with me every week since he was eight.