Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

It’s great.

But it’s cost Levy and Spurs £800mill to build. Add interest, the fluctuating currency markets(look at the Glazer’s and United’s debt), the uncertainty of Brexit, etc, and Spurs could be saddled with £1bill worth of debt.

Compare and contrast that to the Etihad. 1 stand left to redevelop, a bigger capacity, and £4mill a season to the city council.
 
TheMagician said:
Family Stand in the 49th minute yesterday. Many didn’t return for the 2nd half due to the rain.

Perhaps it is for the best that it is moved.

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There’s never been the need to have a Family Stand. It’s been full three times (each time we’ve lifted the Prem trophy) in all the years it’s been going.

All the kids need is about three or four blocks somewhere in the stadium, not a full stand.
 
TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
How hygienic are these? The bottom of the old glass, which could have germs on, gets transferred to the delivery device. Do they have some way of handling this?
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There is a lip around the bottom so the magnet doesn't touch the surface, and its a new pint pot each time (or should be). They are as hygienic as any other plastic pint pot.

The only issue I've found with them is people know that if you push the magnet up from the bottom, you lose your pint - so you spend the night defending it which is a pain in the arse.

Think they're charging £4 a pint which is pretty reasonable in London.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
There’s never been the need to have a Family Stand. It’s been full three times (each time we’ve lifted the Prem trophy) in all the years it’s been going.

All the kids need is about three or four blocks somewhere in the stadium, not a full stand.
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I can see us there, my three are 9, 7 and 4 and barely saw a minute of the game as they were hiding in their coats as that freezing rain came in directly at them, I can’t blame anyone with kids if they watched from the concourse.

To be fair, the South stand third tier was equally sparse from kick off against Everton though.
 
With the extension of the north stand will the club be increasing away fans allocations in the south stand?
 
Marvin said:
Probably still queuing for a hot drink.

I went into the concourse at half time to get warm and the queues for refreshments were enormous when the 2nd half kicked off.

There were still some spaces in the Family Stand though when people returned and that bothers me more. I suspect that the no shows are not seasoncard holders (otherwise they'd be evenly spread over the whole stadium) but concessions not showing up.
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You’ll be surprised at the number of seasoncard holders that swerve games in the family stand. A lot do.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
There’s never been the need to have a Family Stand. It’s been full three times (each time we’ve lifted the Prem trophy) in all the years it’s been going.

All the kids need is about three or four blocks somewhere in the stadium, not a full stand.
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I sit in the family stand with two of my three children. I dont dispute what you are saying. But it is interesting but I don't think there are actually that many kids that sit there. My guess is probably about 15-20%
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
I sit in the family stand with two of my three children. I dont dispute what you are saying. But it is interesting but I don't think there are actually that many kids that sit there. My guess is probably about 15-20%
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I’d agree. Increasingly more adults with no kids occupy the area.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
I sit in the family stand with two of my three children. I dont dispute what you are saying. But it is interesting but I don't think there are actually that many kids that sit there. My guess is probably about 15-20%
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^this...

I know two lads who have season cards in FS Level 1, 2adults and a 7 year old. The 7 year old doesn't exist they just upgrade it for big games so mates can go. This year they've had a free upgrade to most games for the kids ticket.
 
You’re apparently now allowed to operate a stadium with safe standing seats/rails in place for extra safety in areas with more persistent standing.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport...r.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Bristol City fans has welcomed the news that safe standing has been given the green light.

The government’s Sports Ground Safety Authority this week confirmed the use of special stadium seats that incorporate barriers to keep livelier fans safe while attending matches.

Such seating would help prevent supporters from falling over the seat in front when wildly celebrating or such if persistently standing.

A major update of the official stadium safety guidelines for England and Wales, the first for 10 years, now provides football clubs like Bristol City with advice on enhancing the safety of spectators in areas of seating occupied by their more vibrant fans.

The Robins are required by law to operate an all-seater stadium but the new guidelines suggest that clubs should consider installing what are being termed ‘seats incorporating barriers’ (also known as ‘rail seats’) as added safety measures in such areas.

The Bristol City Supporters Club & Trust has exclusively revealed to BristolLive the images of how it would like to see such seating used at Ashton Gate.

“We all know that the Section 82 group and many other fans in the southeast corner of Ashton Gate like to sing and chant for 90 minutes and spend a good deal of the match on their feet.

"That, we feel, would therefore be the first place to enhance spectator safety in this way,” says Supporters Club & Trust board member Jon Darch, who has also been heavily involved over the last decade in the national campaign for the introduction of such seating.

“In due course, when the all-seater policy is revoked, as now seems almost inevitable, that section would thus also be ready to be formally operated as a standing area.

"If the demand was then there for a larger standing area, our suggestion, if the fans currently holding season tickets there were amenable to it, would be to expand it across the back of the South Stand, as we show in our images“, added Darch.
 
Can anyone remember when the JV deal on the Collar Site land ends? iirc If we don't break ground i time the land goes back to Council ownership so I would hope something specific is announced soon so that planning and prep works will be done in time.
 
fbloke said:
Can anyone remember when the JV deal on the Collar Site land ends? iirc If we don't break ground i time the land goes back to Council ownership so I would hope something specific is announced soon so that planning and prep works will be done in time.
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The JV (owned 80% by City's sister company and 20% by the Council) was to purchase the collar site land at market value on the following terms:

The proposed disposal will be by way of a circa 250 year lease. The ”JV” Development Company Limited will develop the land in accordance with the Commercial Plan but if less than 25% of the Collar Site has been redeveloped within 15 years of the grant of the lease the Council will have the right to take the lease back from the ”JV” Development Company Limited at market value.

So the Council will have to pay market rate to take the land back (arguably little chance of that unless there's a major change in the state of the Council's finances over the next 8 years from now). But in practice, we need to develop 10 acres on the collar site by early 2027 if we're to take the option of the table completely.

In 2019, I assume we can expect an application for planning permission for the extension of the Campus into the Edwin Road Industrial Estate to the west to accommodate the MMU sports institute and for the Rugby Football League HQ next to the Regional Arena. I think it may finally be the year that expansion of the North Stand starts, too.

The RFL and MMU development is due to be completed by 2021, and the RFL's website originally trailed a 60K-capacity Etihad for the RL World Cup in October 2021. That's been taken down but I'm hoping nonetheless that it still reflects the intention of the club and one of the JV company's prospective major tenants.

I also believe (hope?) that plans for at least the northern end of the Collar Site will follow on from those developments. There's at least been recognition from Marty Edelman as well as speculation in the press that commercial partners for the Collar Site are emerging, so we can maybe hope that the 2027 deadline won't be an issue. ​
 
petrusha said:
The JV (owned 80% by City's sister company and 20% by the Council) was to purchase the collar site land at market value on the following terms:

The proposed disposal will be by way of a circa 250 year lease. The ”JV” Development Company Limited will develop the land in accordance with the Commercial Plan but if less than 25% of the Collar Site has been redeveloped within 15 years of the grant of the lease the Council will have the right to take the lease back from the ”JV” Development Company Limited at market value.

So the Council will have to pay market rate to take the land back (arguably little chance of that unless there's a major change in the state of the Council's finances over the next 8 years from now). But in practice, we need to develop 10 acres on the collar site by early 2027 if we're to take the option of the table completely.

In 2019, I assume we can expect an application for planning permission for the extension of the Campus into the Edwin Road Industrial Estate to the west to accommodate the MMU sports institute and for the Rugby Football League HQ next to the Regional Arena. I think it may finally be the year that expansion of the North Stand starts, too.

The RFL and MMU development is due to be completed by 2021, and the RFL's website originally trailed a 60K-capacity Etihad for the RL World Cup in October 2021. That's been taken down but I'm hoping nonetheless that it still reflects the intention of the club and one of the JV company's prospective major tenants.

I also believe (hope?) that plans for at least the northern end of the Collar Site will follow on from those developments. There's at least been recognition from Marty Edelman as well as speculation in the press that commercial partners for the Collar Site are emerging, so we can maybe hope that the 2027 deadline won't be an issue. ​
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Cheers, I wasn't concerned as the JV could always be flexible enough to accommodate delays but it was always was going to be the canary in the mine which would show signs of issues moving forwards
 
Anybody know what's happening with the old bank next to the training complex ? Walking past at the Palace game , I noticed it was all fenced off with the same sort of fencing that is around the complex. So is part of the complex now ?
 
Yes I noticed this as well, definitely mcfc fencing of the same type used in the rest of the academy. Wonder if City have bought it and have plans to extend the academy footprint?
 
Is there any update on stadium expansion? It's been a while since the fan consultation. I wondered if there were any follow-ups or updates?
 
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