Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[HelloCity]

So the actual stand and roof pretty much stay the same, but are extended higher and further back, like the South stand, and the two buildings, the souvenir shop/museum and the hotel are incorporated seamlessly into the sides of the stand, fan outwards, and in-between those two buildings will be a linked and covered City Square?

The actual stand will be very similar (if not exactly the same) in footprint/height etc to the South Stand. Sounds like the externals of the stand will be where the difference is with these other buildings joined up to it on either side so it looks like a seamless structure and thus creating a much bigger structure overall.

I wonder if they’ll keep the dark grey look? Might not look too nice if there’s buildings coming out of the stand and into City Square. Maybe a chance to begin the creation of a new look for the stadium…

 

[jrb]

The actual stand will be very similar (if not exactly the same) in footprint/height etc to the South Stand. Sounds like the externals of the stand will be where the difference is with these other buildings joined up to it on either side so it looks like a seamless structure.

I wonder if they’ll keep the dark grey look? Might not look too nice if there’s buildings coming out of the stand and into City Square. Maybe a chance to begin the creation of a new look for the stadium…

I hope the City Square Plaza has a glazed roof that connects to both buildings. That would be great in the Summer and Spring months letting plenty of light into the covered City Square Plaza. There are plenty of examples around the world.

Cabot Circus in Bristol is a good example.

 

[richards30]

The Rostov Arena looks good with an LED wrap.
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If the club want the stadium to be a landmark in Manchester then it needs something like this imo.

 

[Centurions]

The footprint of an expanded level 2 or additional level 3 would be the same due to the cable net restrictions. The top of the tier needs to finish up at the same point in both instances to allow the net to feed through between the tier and the roof.

Unless City are going to surprise everybody and replace the roof on N, E & W while extending the E & W upper tiers back?

What can I say, I want them to do this lot before I'm in my grave :)

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

So the actual stand and roof pretty much stay the same, but are extended higher and further back, like the South stand, and the two buildings, the souvenir shop/museum and the hotel are incorporated seamlessly into the sides of the stand, fan outwards, and in-between those two buildings will be a linked and covered City Square?

Yeah……so from the sky it looks like a cock & 2 balls

 

[HelloCity]

I hope the City Square Plaza has a glazed roof that connects to both buildings. That would be great in the Summer and Spring months letting plenty of light into the covered City Square Plaza. There are plenty of examples around the world.

Cabot Circus in Bristol is a good example.

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Maybe it will be like my shitty notepad doodle and then have a roof over City Square (Plaza) in the style of your picture?



The hotel could have a restaurant on the ground floor and be used by fans on match days, with both the hotel and shop/museum having great views of the plaza.

 

[Del_Bosque]

The actual stand will be very similar (if not exactly the same) in footprint/height etc to the South Stand. Sounds like the externals of the stand will be where the difference is with these other buildings joined up to it on either side so it looks like a seamless structure and thus creating a much bigger structure overall.

I wonder if they’ll keep the dark grey look? Might not look too nice if there’s buildings coming out of the stand and into City Square. Maybe a chance to begin the creation of a new look for the stadium…

So there won't be a direct route round the outside of the stadium as there is now or will they maintain a walkway underneath the linked buildings and north stand?

 

[HelloCity]

So there won't be a direct route round the outside of the stadium as there is now or will they maintain a walkway underneath the linked buildings and north stand?

Good point. Sounds like with these new structures there won’t be as much room around that area as there is now. Perhaps like you say each building wing could have a walkway in the middle to ease foot flow and let fans pass directly though without having to walk around.

 

[jrb]

Maybe it will be like my shitty notepad doodle and then have a roof over City Square (Plaza) in the style of your picture?

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The hotel could have a restaurant on the ground floor and be used by fans on match days, with both the hotel and shop/museum having great views of the plaza.

Similar to yours, but just as bad. :-)

But why would the club be doing soil testing on the Collar site as shown in my picture, which I recently posted, if the hotel, Museum and souvenir shop are to be incorporated into the North stand and the ground?

 

[HelloCity]

Similar to yours, but just as bad. :-)

But why would the club be doing soil testing on the Collar site as shown in my picture, if the hotel, Museum and souvenir shop are to be incorporated into the North stand and the ground.

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Hmmm.

Offices?
2 hotels?
The NS wings are just for a restaurant, shop and museum and not the hotel?

 

[blueparrot]

Maybe it will be like my shitty notepad doodle and then have a roof over City Square (Plaza) in the style of your picture?

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The hotel could have a restaurant on the ground floor and be used by fans on match days, with both the hotel and shop/museum having great views of the plaza.

Looks great, maybe not in red though :)

 

[jrb]

Hmmm.

Offices?
2 hotels?
The NS wings are just for a restaurant, shop and museum and not the hotel?

You have the hotel attached to the ground/North stand in your plan?

Posted earlier on by…..

I'm sure somebody posted the hotel and the conference centre are joined to the extended stand and come out from it as 2 wings with the covered plaza in beteween, rather than being built into the stand.

Thought the rumours were 1 hotel and another hotel afterwards, not 2 hotels at once?

 

[Saddleworth2]

Mindboggling that they think everyone is just going to do away with cars.

The council should be arranging deals with all the local businesses for event day parking, rather than the free for all now.

Rather than an extended parking exclusion zone, charge £5 for on street parking match and event days, use the money to improve local facilities for residents.

A parent with young kids and their mates at a concert isn't jumping a bus or walking into town at 1030pm, then connect on to Burnley or wherever.

It's Sadiq Khan style war on cars but with a 100th of the public transport infrastructure

Having read this new stuff I am just shaking my head.
Mad.

 

[Silva61]

They think 1 in 20 concert goers will walk home down the canal path? In their Sunday best and high heels? Doesn't seem right.

Also at times in the dark. Those towpaths are gonna need some work.

They think 1 in 20 concert goers will walk home down the canal path? In their Sunday best and high heels? Doesn't seem right.

 

[supercity88]

I hope the City Square Plaza has a glazed roof that connects to both buildings. That would be great in the Summer and Spring months letting plenty of light into the covered City Square Plaza. There are plenty of examples around the world.

Cabot Circus in Bristol is a good example.

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I'm struggling to see (based on your mock up) how it could all work to be honest. You need to allow for the flow of people around the ground and to/from the tram stop. But with the cable net system, it seems to limit where things could go unless it was all covered and the cables punctured through at different points. The squash centre limits the space to manouevre on the western side.

 

[Bluesince1979]

I worry that at times that a concert and a match clash, the area will be total gridlock and a no go zone.

Bad enough getting to and from the games as it is.

 

[HelloCity]

I'm struggling to see (based on your mock up) how it could all work to be honest. You need to allow for the flow of people around the ground and to/from the tram stop. But with the cable net system, it seems to limit where things could go unless it was all covered and the cables punctured through at different points. The squash centre limits the space to manouevre on the western side.

Perhaps the ‘wings’ will be like this and they’ll have walkways so people can pass through?

Yellow - Expansion
Blue - City Square (under a roof which goes from one wing to the other)

 

[supercity88]

Perhaps the ‘wings’ will be like this and they’ll have walkways so people can pass through?

Yellow - Expansion
Blue - City Square (under a roof which goes from one wing to the other)

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If you designed it right, that is probably the optimum way of doing it. You'd have to use a completely different set of materials so that the stadium was viewed as a bowl still and the hotel etc felt like a separate structure. I'm not sure whether that's something you could achieve, and I wonder if the Council would accept the aesthetics of the stadium changing so much. Like I said initially though, I don't see how you could follow the curvature and extend outwards with the cablenet. It would have to pierce through and although you could work around it, it's compromising the space.

 

[WARBABY]

Finally.
We're back on track.

 

[Spanishbob]

Although I like the look of the ground has it is with its suspended roof an all,wouldn’t it make sense to build a new roof altogether with the support structure a few meters away from the stadium footprint. This would allow a complete modernization of the East and west stands to link up with the north and south stands and make a super bowl. Don’t think it would need to be retractable roof either.