Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site

[Vic]

I can't believe they are putting two rows at the front of the existing bottom tier. The view will be absolutely diabolical. It already is on the first few rows and this will be worse.

I suppose the tourists will love it with their big daft cameras.

They are going to drop the pitch to allow for the extra rows so it won't make any difference.

I thought they were changing the rake of the lower part of the stands to expand out over the infield area, IIRC there's a diagram on one of the planning permission PDFs posted - so the view may well be bobbins.....

Not sure where this idea of lowering the pitch came from, can't be practical when you consider drainage, under-soil heating, plant access, waste removal, and getting it laid in time for the new season.

Found the planning permission doc....

5.11 Adding rows to the front of the lower tier
3 extra rows will be added to the lower tier by reprofiling the pitch run-off and
stepping the new rows down below current ground level. The new steppings
height will be kept to a minimum as these new seats will be low relative to
pitch level. A minimum C60 sightline will be provided, creating approximately
2,000 extra seats.

Not only will the view be bobbins, It'll be wet as well.....

http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/associateddocs/selecteddoc.aspx?104315-dsx-0004.pdf

And they know it:
"The additional front three rows have a minimum sightline and no roof cover but they will improve the matchday atmosphere, place supporters closer to the pitch and to create a more intimidating home venue for MCFC" (p.53 of that doc). Unless you think "reprofiling the pitch run-off" means anything other than a Swamp-style trench, there's nothing about changing pitch level. Poor view and good chance of getting wet - not sure the people in them will add to the atmosphere.Not good selling points really.

 

[mannycity]

Theses xtra rows,are a good idea,price them accordingly and they will sell.

The club have thought this out well, it is probably based around CHAMPIONS LEAGUE games,having to close and cover the first 2 rows,cos of so called advertising sight lines,so in the long term we gain 2,000 extra seats for champions league games at premium prices, makes good sense.

 

[Zubrman]

This thread has always been an excellent read. Thanks to all those who have contributed so much information and pictures.

 

[blingy]

Theses xtra rows,are a good idea,price them accordingly and they will sell.

The club have thought this out well, it is probably based around CHAMPIONS LEAGUE games,having to close and cover the first 2 rows,cos of so called advertising sight lines,so in the long term we gain 2,000 extra seats for champions league games at premium prices, makes good sense.

If it's a sight line thing they may have to close the 4 rows as the advertising levels may not change due to the pitch not changing/ lowering so the sight line from the new rows 3&4 (1&2 currently) won't change either

 

[Carver]

CL Regulations 2012-2015 Cycle

UEFA, or a third party acting on its behalf, will provide the advertising boards
(at least 90cm high) and be responsible for their installation and dismantling
within two days of the match. The club is responsible for ensuring that the
advertising boards are within the unimpaired range of view of the main
camera.
During the 2012-15 cycle, LED advertising boards will be used from the round
of 16 onwards. During a site visit to each stadium, UEFA and/or a third party
acting on its behalf, will assess any existing LED advertising system in place
and, should it fulfil the technical specifications set by UEFA and be judged by
UEFA to be of a high enough quality and reliability, the club shall provide
access to such system, whether it is the club’s own or that of any third party
supplier, to the company appointed by UEFA to manage and/or operate the
LED boards. In such circumstances UEFA shall pay the club the fee for the
rental of its LED advertising system and the club shall be responsible for its
proper functioning.
As from the 2015-16 season, the clubs will be required to provide as of the
play-offs, free of charge, LED advertising systems that meet the technical
specifications to be notified to the clubs by UEFA. In the event that a club is
unable to provide a LED advertising system meeting the required technical
specifications then UEFA provides an appropriate system and deducts these
costs from the distribution due to the club for its participation in the
competition.

So, the 90cm high boards are only there from the group stages onwards at the moment, but will need to be there from the play off stages from 2015-16, and ideally be provided by us.

These boards are a pain in the arse for one particular reason, when the ball goes out the ball boys find it difficult to hurdle them to retrieve the ball. They can do this with the ones that we've got at the moment.

I thought the lack of use of the front seats was due to there not being enough clearance above the advertising hoardings. Instead of lowering the pitch can we have the 'running track' on hydraulic rams or a removable stage. Lower/remove it for CL games so that the advertising boards can be 90cm high and not interfere with sight lines (as per the swamp) and leave it up for the remainder of the time.

 

[dctid]

Theses xtra rows,are a good idea,price them accordingly and they will sell.

The club have thought this out well, it is probably based around CHAMPIONS LEAGUE games,having to close and cover the first 2 rows,cos of so called advertising sight lines,so in the long term we gain 2,000 extra seats for champions league games at premium prices, makes good sense.

Depends how they price them I guess but not for me though

 

[Marvin]

Theses xtra rows,are a good idea,price them accordingly and they will sell.

The club have thought this out well, it is probably based around CHAMPIONS LEAGUE games,having to close and cover the first 2 rows,cos of so called advertising sight lines,so in the long term we gain 2,000 extra seats for champions league games at premium prices, makes good sense.

Depends how they price them I guess but not for me though

I had a season ticket in North Stand at Maine Rd on row 3, right behind the goal. There are pros and cons. Hearing the players and seeing the emotions on their faces is something you don't have any idea of sat back in the stands

 

[Manchester1894]

Interesting to see the render on mcfc.co.uk against how it looked recently

[bigimg]http://mcfc.co.uk/~/media/Images/Home/News/Club%20news/2012/September/CFA%20Content%20Holding%20Stills/Landing%20Page%20Holding%20still.ashx?w=800&h=450&as=1[/bigimg]

[bigimg]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bc7F5IQCAAA38vQ.jpg:large[/bigimg]

 

[mancity dan]

Looks brilliant

 

[Mr Ed (The Stables)]

Best thread on the forum this, I just want to thank all those who have made it so interesting with pics and their knowledge. Cheers guys and gals!!