EU referendum

[BoyBlue_1985]

A story in Australia that brexiters are taking pens to stop an MI5 plot to fix the vote? False or is paranoia really that bad

Im sure they could defeat the mighty pen with the technology at there disposal
It the French Foreign Legion we need to worry about

 

[Monkfish]

A choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourselves off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one

I fucking love my country, I love our tolerance, our optimism, our compassion, they tried to take it away from us, we said no thanks
I love being whatever you hate brigade want to call me

It's a wonderful day in the history of our great nation, that has shown the world the way forward, not for the first time, not for the last

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Have read that an exit poll would require a few thousand workers and upwards of a 100,000 interviews to be reasonably correct so it is just considered very liable to being wrong and hideously expensive

Likely.
There are 2 main polling types - an internet poll, which costs about £1000, and a phone poll which is better balanced but costs £10000. The latter is much more accurate as it will be properly targeted, but the expense makes them a minority.

They also have a comparison with previous polls to avoid rogue results. In this referendum, there isn't a viable comparison, so any count wouldn't have as firm a foundation.

 

[RandomJ]

A story in Australia that brexiters are taking pens to stop an MI5 plot to fix the vote? False or is paranoia really that bad

I saw a lot of people on Twitter telling people to take pens to the polls. Guess some people really are that paranoid.

 

[manctheknife]

Well I'm working and I will be voting later, probably not how you'd like me to mind.

I have no problem with anyone working...

 

[Monkfish]

A story in Australia that brexiters are taking pens to stop an MI5 plot to fix the vote? False or is paranoia really that bad

They would still complain the keeper was off his line

 

[argyle]

I'm not "far right" i'm a former Labour voter, now libertarian socialist holding a mostly Centrist political stance, so thank you for making a completly wide of the mark, bigoted assumption of my political viewpoint.

The ECJ is not a UK legislative organisation, it's European, therefore it is not directly tied to the citizens of the UK. There are foreign born MP's in Parliament but they represent the intentions of the British people. You're 'glad' the High Court is not the be all and end all. I can see exactly what type of person you are.

Think whatever you like about me.

Far right always like to cast themselves as Libertarian.

 

[Monkfish]

A choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourselves off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one

I fucking love my country, I love our tolerance, our optimism, our compassion, they tried to take it away from us, we said no thanks
I love being whatever you hate brigade want to call me

It's a wonderful day in the history of our great nation, that has shown the world the way forward, not for the first time, not for the last

Hope I ain't doing a MoN, that would be embarrassing

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Obviously no one will knock back a good law, the line comes on what the upper body thinks and the point i am making is that the EU is not a million miles away from the UK set up.
Brexit would have you think is it is closed up mafia with no democracy. It was never going to be far from British views as we help draw up the reconstruction of Europe long before the EU.

Oh, I agree with you, it isn't that dissimilar. I was noting that the HoL cannot veto something outright. It serves a very important purpose, those within it have no chance of being unseated for going against party lines, and thus have more freedom to do what they believe is best. The demands to make it elected or largely appointed to match the Commons are missing the whole point of the HoL.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Have read that an exit poll would require a few thousand workers and upwards of a 100,000 interviews to be reasonably correct so it is just considered very liable to being wrong and hideously expensive

It's expensive and you can't extrapolate the results, so what's the point?