EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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argyle said:
Think whatever you like about me.

Far right always like to cast themselves as Libertarian.
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And those who accuse others of being 'far right' without any plausible deductive reasoning other than "i disagree with you!" are something much, much worse.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
near enough all the polls are even, and even then they were all wrong last year. I just dont see how the bookies would know, when the majority haven't voted yet. unless its rigged they can't know. i think lots more people are going to vote out today then originally thought
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I was going to make the same point earlier after seeing the odds shorten hugely this morning on Remain. Maybe the bookies are reacting to the last polls before voting opened, the ComRes one showing Remain with a lead of 8 points but I'm sure that poll was published late last night and the odds only started tumbling this morning so maybe it was more to do with how the financial markets were performing this morning coupled with people sticking considerable bets on Remain on the back of the strong showing in the stock marker? Thinking about it, the bookies odds could indeed be linked to the stock exchange as a lot of those gains in the FTSE 100 this morning have been reeled in and a quick look at Oddschcker now shows the odds lengthening on Remain with some bookies offering 1/6 and 1/7 as opposed to 1/12 earlier.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Yet in the HOC, you personally have only voted for one candidate, if the candidate you voted for actually gets elected. The area you live in has probably elected 4/5.
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My MP represents my area and works for my area on matters that directly affect me and my neighbours.

How many non-UK MEP's know anything about the needs for South Manchester?

Which 'sides' of the EP have British interests in mind? They don't they are there to promote the EU.
 
KenTheLandlord said:
The unelected peers in the HoL already have the power to veto laws. Dave has been hammered numerous times.
The EU works the same, the Parliament puts forward the proposals after months of negotiation and the top boys then either see it through or ask the Parliament amend what is needed.
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That's not how the EU legislative process works Ken. The Commission puts forward the proposals but it can do that in one of two ways.

Normally these would go to both the Parliament and the Council of Ministers who would discuss them. If they're not happy they can send them back to the Commission with amendments. They'll then go to a second reading and if they still don't agree it gets dropped. Basically that's not dissimilar to what we have in the UK. In fact it's probably a bit better as the Commission can't steamroller anything through, which the UK government can do.

But for the really strategic stuff, they don't need Parliament to agree, they just need to consult it.

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I think a lot of people who are voting, whether that be to leave or remain, are doing so from a position of limited information. The complexities relating to the EU, and the impact on the country and the population, of either staying or going are vast, way too huge for your average member of the public to have the time to get their heads around and fully understand. That's the truly scary thing, people are making such a fundamentally important decision with extremely limited information, and in some cases a complete lack of understanding. There should never have been a referendum, it's beyond stupid to expect your average member of the public (let alone some of the morons in this country) to have the time, inclination or intellect to grasp all the issues and make a fully informed decision on something so complex. I like to think I'm a fairly intelligent person and I'm still taking a punt, hazarding a guess, at what's the best decision to make.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
My MP represents my area and works for my area on matters that directly affect me and my neighbours.

How many non-UK MEP's know anything about the needs for South Manchester?

Which 'sides' of the EP have British interests in mind? They don't they are there to promote the EU.
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How do MPs from areas outside of where you live know anything about your area's needs?

Which 'sides' of the HOC have your interests in mind? They don't, they're there to promote the UK.
 
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