EU referendum

[Helmet Cole]

The thing that is totally ignored by Brexitera is just how many companies in the rest of the EU are planning now and ready to try and replace the British goods that become too expensive with tariffs.

Meanwhile the British public is looking forward to replacing champagne with sparkling Colombian, Mercedes with Great Wall and French and German energy with power cuts. It is the opportunity cost that really matters . Europe has 20+ countries to fill the gap within the group

You've just made all that up. None of it is true. Are you ill?

 

[blueonblue]

So you're saying that a few countries have big trade surpluses with us (great, we established that about 200 pages ago). So what will the other 22 or so have to gain from this lovely little agreement that's going to be like falling off a log, oh wise one?

1) It was you who talked about the hit being spread over 27 countries, the same using them in a total to get to "Only 16% of EU exports.

2) What the "Other 22 or so" do is not OUR problem but the ones taking the hit who will be desperate, we do not need a trade deal.

 

[blueonblue]

The thing that is totally ignored by Brexitera is just how many companies in the rest of the EU are planning now and ready to try and replace the British goods that become too expensive with tariffs.

An you think our companies are not doing the same ?, with the added bonus that goods on the world market are cheaper than within the EU.

Meanwhile the British public is looking forward to replacing champagne with sparkling Colombian, Mercedes with Great Wall and French and German energy with power cuts. It is the opportunity cost that really matters . Europe has 20+ countries to fill the gap within the group

There are numerous wine producing countries in the world, A Jaguar or Range rover with a tariff price advantage over the German motors sounds good to me, the power cut nonsense is just that, but it may well be the kick up the arse this country needs to build up its own generating industry.

The last point is almost laughable, those 20+ countries are on the tit of the big ones, far from filling the gap they will drag down the others at a time their income is reduced both by fallen trade with their biggest single customer and the loss of the nine billion or so membership fee.

While the talk from the remainians has been that the pound will fall on exit there is no mention of the effect on the already unstable Euro, those replaced British goods will cost them more while our exports will be more attractive on the world market, true we will pay more for imports as will they, but the 2-1 trade deficit will even that one out.

 

[Chancy Termites]

Most people in the EU I think want a peaceful and cooperative Europe but don't want a Federal state.

Would people agree with that statement? And if so why isn't the EU doing what it's people want?

It because there isn't a mechanism whereby the people of Europe can vote for legislators based on the policies they say they would implement if elected.

 

[SWP's back]

I now suspect this account is run by a bot of some kind.

Turgid isn't it.

 

[BigJoe#1]

It because there isn't a mechanism whereby the people of Europe can vote for legislators based on the policies they say they would implement if elected.

The most powerful people in Europe are the Government appointed unelected European Commisioners. They are the people who act on behalf of individual Governments and direct the EUParliament, they are totally unaccountable to the people of Europe.

Many people do not know the name of the British EU commissioner, he is Lord Hill of Oareford a senior Tory Party member. He is the person who does your bidding in Europe and works strictly under the control of David Cameron.

It really is quite unbelievable, the amount of power and non-accountability these people have. EÜrope a democracy! You're having a laugh!

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

The thing that is totally ignored by Brexitera is just how many companies in the rest of the EU are planning now and ready to try and replace the British goods that become too expensive with tariffs.

Meanwhile the British public is looking forward to replacing champagne with sparkling Colombian, Mercedes with Great Wall and French and German energy with power cuts. It is the opportunity cost that really matters . Europe has 20+ countries to fill the gap within the group

No we are not as it will carry on as it did before.

The rest of the Eu well Germany and France in particular are actually frantically doing their calculations of how they going to fill the massive hole in the Eu finances if we vote to leave the Eu. I expect they are more worried calculating how much they are going to have to increase taxes in France and Germany if we leave the Eu. I am afraid that is what really scares the Eu block because that is going to be the most immediate concern and consequence of us leaving, not what is the Chinese , Russian, or USA equivalent of a tractor. By the way the Eu does not have a trading agreement with those countries so given your arguments to date they would have to rule out buying anything from those countries as well.

 

[CTID1988]

I've honestly no idea how to vote on this, i don't like being lied to and i know both sides are lying to me. Pisses me off

 

[blueonblue]

I've honestly no idea how to vote on this, i don't like being lied to and i know both sides are lying to me. Pisses me off

At least an out vote will remove a whole layer of liars, we can hopefully then deal with the rest of the lying bas*ards using rope and the nearest lamp post, or vote the f*ckers out if your a bit squeamish.

 

[hilts]

I've honestly no idea how to vote on this, i don't like being lied to and i know both sides are lying to me. Pisses me off

Vote out you never know it might be the kick up the arse the people of Europe and the U.K. Need