Really pains me that this cognitive dissonance goes completely unrecognised in those who harbour it. People need to look past political binaries
The Remain camp did the same to Martin Lewis, using his name without permission when he said he personally was 60/40 for staying in.Sky news just reported that Nissan are taking legal action against vote" leave" for using the Nissan logo along with others companies, with the message "major employers have all said they'll stay in the UK whatever the result of the referendum......but Nissan have confirmed that they want the UK to stay in the EU and permission should have been requested to use their logo and if it was requested they wouldnt have been granted permission....This just shows the lies the "leave" campaign are trying to sell us....
The Remain camp did the same to Martin Lewis, using his name without permission when he said he personally was 60/40 for staying in.
Ah so not misleading, just not asking for permission. Slight difference
Their lying masks are slipping.
Joe you seem to look at history as if you can choose a) and that b) and c) don't exist and if a world exists where simple easy choices can be made without difficult other scenarios.It's not a question of taking sides EB2, it's about finding solutions. If your mentality is that it is about taking sides I can see why you're struggling to understand the situation.
Sad as it is, Europe at this moment us time not ready or prepared, socially, financially or politically to accept this vasr number of people. The reactions across Europe are showing this. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying these far left or far right wing political groups are correct, they're not, but the fact is, they're there, they exist and they cannot be ignored, they are part of the fabric of the culture that you, me and everyone else has created.
What we needed was a strategic plan to help these guys, something we just have not got or ever had. Sadly the answer was NOT to say everyone's welcome and Merkle herself is seeing this now.
The bigger picture is that it's the EU which is nourishing the rise of the far right. It's happening all over Europe. It's not a coincidence.I don't fear an alignment with Farage though. I fear an alignment with the likes of Britain First and BNP.
Perhaps I'm narrow minded and should see a bigger picture as you say. However, I'm not likely or inclined to find common ground with people who have beliefs that I hate.
This is not debate it is just entrenched mud slinging.
The Remain camp did the same to Martin Lewis, using his name without permission when he said he personally was 60/40 for staying in.
Nothing left to debate Worzel, it's like a post match forum going for 3 months
The bigger picture is that it's the EU which is nourishing the rise of the far right. It's happening all over Europe. It's not a coincidence.
The bigger picture is that it's the EU which is nourishing the rise of the far right. It's happening all over Europe. It's not a coincidence.
Farage is just their respectable face a man with a heart that is no different but who political consultants and spin doctors have spent decades teaching how to look reasonable.I don't fear an alignment with Farage though. I fear an alignment with the likes of Britain First and BNP.
Perhaps I'm narrow minded and should see a bigger picture as you say. However, I'm not likely or inclined to find common ground with people who have beliefs that I hate.
No they didn't - poverty and economic crisis has caused the rise of the far right same as happened last time we had an economic crisis of similar magnitude, those who pretend it is down to the EU are no scholarsBanking crisis was not caused by the eu. Refugee crisis was not caused by the eu
But austerity was imposed by the EU and Merkel mismanaged the refugee crisis spectacularly.Banking crisis was not caused by the eu. Refugee crisis was not caused by the eu
The original 2008 crisis has been magnified by the fact that countries are tied into a common currency that (a) some should never have been in and (b) restricts their freedom of action to get out of. It's no coincidence that, however poor our economic performance may have been, it's been better than the vast majority of the EU apart from Germany. And plenty of countries that had freedom of action didn't have an economic crisis, including the one you live in.No they didn't - poverty and economic crisis has caused the rise of the far right same as happened last time we had an economic crisis of similar magnitude, those who pretend it is down to the EU are no scholars
But austerity was imposed by the EU and Merkel mismanaged the refugee crisis spectacularly.
Austerity has been imposed In Britain by Britain , no one has yet offered a good alternative to what Merkel did, I agree surely there was a better way but no one has come up with one. It could have been far worse and that is the issue. We shouldn't have created the crisis and thought we could leave tiny countries like Lebanon and Jordan to deal with millionsBut austerity was imposed by the EU and Merkel mismanaged the refugee crisis spectacularly.