Everton (a) post-match thread

Tangled up in blue. said:
I thought if the ball hits the shirt sleeve it wasn't handball
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It isn’t.

The ball didn’t hit his sleeve. (Well, the vast majority didn’t)

We don’t lose the win if we admit we got lucky on the handball call. We can even say that it would have been offside.

Saying that it isn’t handball is disingenuous.
 
paulchapo said:
I'm not getting into a pantomime, "Oh no it isn't/oh yes it is!" with you but it's not blatant due to the added confusion on the new shirtline rule. Due to that rule var and the ref ruled it wasn't conclusive. Was I relieved? Yes. Would I be pissed off if I was Everton? Yes. It wasn't given, we had no say in the decision, end of story. We've been on the end of some ourselves and some have gone our way, Saturday was the latter. That still doesn't make it a blatant handball.
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No, the fact the vast majority of the hall hit his arm and not his sleeve made it handball.

The VAR referee didn’t think so and pretty much everyone in the world of football, barring a minority on here, think he made a mistake.

We lose nothing by saying it was handball as it probably would have been offside anyway. It just seems bizarre to suggest it wasn’t blatant handball.
 
MadchesterCity said:
Fuck you Cilla Black, Fuck you Jamie Carragher, Fuck you John Barnes, Fuck you Liam Neeson, Fuck you Samuel Jackson, Fuck you Daniel Craig, Fuck you Steven Gerrard, Fuck you Danny Murphy, Fuck you Steve Mcmanamon, Fuck you Kelly Dalglish, Fuck you Mike Myers, Fuck you Dr Dre, Fuck you Angelina Jolie, Fuck you John Bishop, Fuck you Nelson Mandela, Fuck you Ricky Tomlinson, Fuck you Michael Owen, Fuck you Lebron James, Fuck you John Aldridge, Fuck you Ian Rush, Fuck you Kenny Dalglish, Fuck you Phil Thompson, Fuck the Merseyside Police, fuck the biased refs and commentators, Fuck you Kilppety Klopp and Fuck you each and every bin dipping vermin bus attacking ****!
Fuck you All!
Fuck you!
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That's impressive, Madchester, good work!
 
MadchesterCity said:
Fuck you Cilla Black, Fuck you Jamie Carragher, Fuck you John Barnes, Fuck you Liam Neeson, Fuck you Samuel Jackson, Fuck you Daniel Craig, Fuck you Steven Gerrard, Fuck you Danny Murphy, Fuck you Steve Mcmanamon, Fuck you Kelly Dalglish, Fuck you Mike Myers, Fuck you Dr Dre, Fuck you Angelina Jolie, Fuck you John Bishop, Fuck you Nelson Mandela, Fuck you Ricky Tomlinson, Fuck you Michael Owen, Fuck you Lebron James, Fuck you John Aldridge, Fuck you Ian Rush, Fuck you Kenny Dalglish, Fuck you Phil Thompson, Fuck the Merseyside Police, fuck the biased refs and commentators, Fuck you Kilppety Klopp and Fuck you each and every bin dipping vermin bus attacking ****!
Fuck you All!
Fuck you!
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Was Nelson Mandela really a red dipper?
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
No, the fact the vast majority of the hall hit his arm and not his sleeve made it handball.

The VAR referee didn’t think so and pretty much everyone in the world of football, barring a minority on here, think he made a mistake.

We lose nothing by saying it was handball as it probably would have been offside anyway. It just seems bizarre to suggest it wasn’t blatant handball.
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What would a unanimous decision it was handball on here do? Make it right? Make our club and fans more popular? Get Everton a point? I'll say it again. After seeing it from lots of different angles it still wasn't conclusive. Some angles it looked like handball, some it didn't. Again this is down to the shirtline rule that clouded the decision. There is no doubt it hit his arm anyone could see that, it's WHERE it hit his arm. The var ref said no penalty I'm happy with that, it's done, finished, the game is over. People can argue all they want on here, Everton can complain to all and sundry, the world of football can weep tears of anguish and rage all they want. It's over, we won.
 
paulchapo said:
What would a unanimous decision it was handball on here do? Make it right? Make our club and fans more popular? Get Everton a point? I'll say it again. After seeing it from lots of different angles it still wasn't conclusive. Some angles it looked like handball, some it didn't. Again this is down to the shirtline rule that clouded the decision. There is no doubt it hit his arm anyone could see that, it's WHERE it hit his arm. The var ref said no penalty I'm happy with that, it's done, finished, the game is over. People can argue all they want on here, Everton can complain to all and sundry, the world of football can weep tears of anguish and rage all they want. It's over, we won.
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Nothing, which is why it surprises me that people are sticking to it not being handball, rather than a mistake.

Perhaps Specsavers should start sponsoring the site. ;-)
 
kbb said:
So we are asked to believe that the tee shirt mark is the cut off for handball.

Yesterday Lukaku was deemed offside against the red dippers and the line was drawn from his elbow to produce a line across the pitch to Robertson's foot (when it could clearly be seen that the Liverpool player was standing on the dark strip of grass and Lukaku on the lighter strip - thus clearly onside from the feet position),

Now if they are drawing the line from the elbow surely this implies that you can't score from the elbow down but you can score above the elbow. So by the same argument Rodri's wasn't handball coz it was above the elbow?
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If this is the angle var reviewed; and deemed the point of contact, then the decision no penalty was correct under the existing guidelines.
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they might of scored the penalty they might not but whats saying we wouldnt score again in time left highly unlikely the speed we was playing but you never know
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Nothing, which is why it surprises me that people are sticking to it not being handball, rather than a mistake.

Perhaps Specsavers should start sponsoring the site. ;-)
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Perhaps because they are entitled to an opinion and think differently to you. It's not about sticking to it as it matters not a jot now and wouldn't have mattered in the moment. They think by the letter of the law it wasn't justified; n giving a penalty. Thankfully the man on var thought the same.
 
Carlos- the- jackal said:
Lets hope the horrible always the victim ( it must be summat in the water in that fuckin shithole of a place) scouse cunts get relegated, it would be sweet as fuck!
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They should have been relegated many years ago when Hans Segers (I think) gifted them 3 goals after being 2-0 down. He actually dived over a penalty that he should have saved. Along with Grobbelar he was charged with match fixing but the case couldn’t be proved, no smoke without fire.
 
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