Everton v City post match

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They just asked Carragher what he thought of the 'quality' in their game.

There was hardly any from either side.

The only side to produce a highish standard at both ends so far this season, consistently, is Chelsea.

In fairness they didn't start coutinho mane clyne and matip, they did well
 
I thought it was the best I've ever seen us play there.

And there lies the problem. Too many confuse playing football with winning at football. I'll grant anyone that if the title was decided by ponderous possession and successful passes then we'd have it won already. The reality is that it isn't. It's won by getting points by winning games and avoiding defeat.

Our methodology of play has none of those two basic principles as its core philosophy.

We are akin to that boxer who stands in front of his static and limited opponent and shuffle our feet with arms raised carrying out the most ridiculous shadow boxing moves only for our opponent to punch us once and we collapse.

In short Pep, you are kidding nobody. The club it seems have for 4 years been working in bringing us a man who has managed to take the club backwards. It's a disaster and frankly as I've said before, sometimes you just have to admit you made a complete wrong call and change things.

Kompany should be appointed manager, Hart needs to come back.
 
Yes we are not clinical enough up front, not strong enough at the back, don't have enough fight or spirit, but the question I want to ask (which I asked in the match thread just before it crashed) is: Sterling gets the pen, yaya scores, would we have won today?

Sterling should just have FUCKING SCORED.....end of !!!
 
It's impossible to pull teams out of position if they don't want to be.

Every goal we concede is on the counter, even in the win against Barca.

Chelsea, Liverpool, Middlesbrough, Everton, they all sit in and wait.

Our passive aggressiveness, trying to switch the play, is food and drink for any team that prepares in the week and knows we will play everything in front of them at a stroll.

Keep Aguero with his back to goal, or let him spin out to the flank, job done.

The biggest slight I can hand Pep at present is that I could pick the tactics which would eradicate half of the issues.

Have the backline go back another ten metres and fuck off Clichy and Bravo.
 
We may have spent money but we're playing an aging full back and a player we've been trying to sell for two years in midfield. That's not what I'd call rebuilding.

So the money that has been splurged should have been spent in areas of more pressing need. 100% agree. Pep decided to loan out our two young full backs. No one has forced him to keep playing Clichy or Zabaleta. Injuries and a lack of faith in youth have prevented the overhaul the squad badly needed.
 
I am frustrated with Pep as much as I was with Pellegrini. Why not playing Garcia and Sane. Transition for transition get the kids used to the system. Klopp used an 18 yrs old right back in a game so important for them.
 
I thought it was the best I've ever seen us play there.
True and false. First half I thought we looked really comfortable but blunt. After 25 minutes we had created a few chances, should have had a penalty and then we went back to pointless dallying possession and you just knew the sucker punch was coming. We never recovered and got worse.

It's been a common theme for many games now but other opponents haven't had as good an attack as Everton. I thiught the hull game was eerily similar but they were quite a lot poorer than Everton in attack.

I think our shape is awful. It doesn't look like we do any shadow play and for all the rondos we see in training vids I haven't seen any first time incisive passing.
 
Positives:

- We're probably not going to be relegated!
- We're only 3 points off second
- Our academy is one of the best in the world
- We're unlikely to go bankrupt any time soon
- We made it through the CL group stages!
- Judging by the posts in this thread many posters have had successful bowel movements today, which is important for overall health and well being

We don't want this sort of stuff on here please Seb.
 
Out of interest, how many do you think bravo SHOULD have saved?

I don't think that's the point for people. They wasn't big errors but on the flip side if he saved any of them would you of gone wow what a world class save? His positioning is poor, he has no presence, doesn't even ever stretch when he's diving. He's a very poor goalkeeper and if you think otherwise you need your eyes testing.
 
We were tantalisingly close until that point...

Trouble is, if I had a penny for every time those words have been uttered on here this season, I'd have enough to buy a Formula One team. The reality is that we are espousing a game plan that is either inherently flawed in terms of its limitations in this league, or one that we don't have the players to make work. My bigger concern is longer term rather than today, however. Kompers and Ya Ya are near the very end of their City careers and Spanish Dave and Fernandinho, both 31, not far behind. That leaves DeBruyne and Aguero as the only two City players I'd be even remotely interested in if I were Klopp or Pochettino or Conte (Gabriel Jesus might turn out to be a world beater, or just a raw kid, we don't know yet). The rebuilding job needed is immense in my book, and that includes Pep's preferred MO
 
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When he dives he actually does not move to where there ball is. When he dives he actually lands where his feet were. He may as well not dive. I would say an average EPL keeper would have saved at least 2 of those goals.

He is absolute shite.

This, for every goal today. Not saying he is at fault for all of them, but his effort at diving to get at the ball was shocking. No movement towards the ball.
 
I'm beginning to think Bravo could catch the ball, turn around, hurl it into his own net, and still get selected the following week.
Are you sure he could catch it in the first place?

We had a few decent chances in the first half but couldn't force a good save from even one of them, and some good approach play in the second, but we are toothless up front and totally in-fucking-capable at the back.
Which fucking dickhead waved goodbye to Demichelis and Quim Mangler then only brought in Stones? Did anybody really think Vince would be fit all season? Fucking madness.
We've had forwards to choose from when we won the league: Sergio, Tevez, Dzeko and Mario in 2011-12 generally with two up top and scoring loads. Then Sergio, Dzeko, Jovetic, Negredo in 2013-14 again with two up top and scoring loads. So why the fuck did we go into this season with just Sergio and a youngster like Nacho?
Nolito and Gundogan aren't out and out strikers.
And the view was shite, but you already knew that as it was at Goodison. Pre-match pie and chips was the highlight of the trip.
Didn't notice many "dry your fanny" morons in the first 15-20 pages; perhaps they'll appear now it's full time in their game at the swamp.
 

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