Fernandinho

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razinho said:
A faster, more intelligent Gareth Barry which I didn't think was possible - the intelligence part, we all know Barry wears concrete boots!

Yea, I think he's a lot slicker than Barry too. The touch and control that Fern, Yaya, Silva, Nasri, Negredo and Aguero have is exceptional. They can move the ball about at pace and just kill it dead with the deftest of touches - all of them. It's why I think that Dzeko stands out like a sore thumb these days, which wasn't so obvious with the likes of Milner and Barry in there but now we've got Fern in there and Nasri's playing more consistently we're a much slicker outfit. I think we've gone up another level, and I can't say enough about how Fernandinho has contributed to that. I questioned the fee a lot and there's no doubt it was very large for a 28 year old but he's been crucial to us so far this season
 
andrewmswift said:
exceptional—IMO world class—player

brazil national team selections must be more absurd than england's

I think he'll be in there for the world cup. The penny will drop before then
 
The Fat el Hombre said:
andrewmswift said:
exceptional—IMO world class—player

brazil national team selections must be more absurd than england's

I think he'll be in there for the world cup. The penny will drop before then
I think brazil is more stubborn when it comes to calling in players from the teams in Eastern Europe and the Russian league to me Willian should've been in the Brazil starting 11 or at least the bench since before going to anji and now chelsea from shahktar Donetsk ..I wonder if this season would be enough time for him to earn a call up to a meaningful match let alone a World Cup. But I think he really deserves it and have since being in shahktar
 
Proelia said:
mammutly said:
mcfc2607 said:
I suspect it's only a matter of time before the posters slagging him off will admit they was wrong.


I suspect it will never happen because nobody was actually slagging him off.

Yes there was and you were one of them

On the contrary. I acknowledged he was a good player but questioned whether he was a superstar. That isn't slagging him off.

I think he's very good at what he does, but I'm not amazed that Paulinho keeps him out of the national team, as he is arguably the more complete player. That said, Fernandinho would be good addition to any squad and he is getting better as he becomes more used to the pace of the premiership football. In my opinion, he is not the complete article because he is not strong in possession, although he makes up for that to a large extent with quick and intelligent passing.

Overall a very good player and an asset to the squad.
 
mammutly said:
Proelia said:
mammutly said:
I suspect it will never happen because nobody was actually slagging him off.

Yes there was and you were one of them

On the contrary. I acknowledged he was a good player but questioned whether he was a superstar. That isn't slagging him off.

I think he's very good at what he does, but I'm not amazed that Paulinho keeps him out of the national team, as he is arguably the more complete player. That said, Fernandinho would be good addition to any squad and he is getting better as he becomes more used to the pace of the premiership football. In my opinion, he is not the complete article because he is not strong in possession, although he makes up for that to a large extent with quick and intelligent passing.

Overall a very good player and an asset to the squad.

mammutly said:
From what I've seen of him in pre season, I'm thinking Jo.

Though obviously I hope I am wrong

I am sure you meant that as a compliment!!!!!!
 
chesterguy said:
mammutly said:
Proelia said:
Yes there was and you were one of them

On the contrary. I acknowledged he was a good player but questioned whether he was a superstar. That isn't slagging him off.

I think he's very good at what he does, but I'm not amazed that Paulinho keeps him out of the national team, as he is arguably the more complete player. That said, Fernandinho would be good addition to any squad and he is getting better as he becomes more used to the pace of the premiership football. In my opinion, he is not the complete article because he is not strong in possession, although he makes up for that to a large extent with quick and intelligent passing.

Overall a very good player and an asset to the squad.

mammutly said:
From what I've seen of him in pre season, I'm thinking Jo.

Though obviously I hope I am wrong

I am sure you meant that as a compliment!!!!!!

A large number of exclamation marks doesn't make your point any stronger. I questioned his ability at the beginning, but explicitly stated that I hoped early impressions were mistaken, which, to large extent, they have been.
 
some excellent performances from him over the last few games. I think his partnership and understanding with Toure is brilliant, they complement each other so well.

Still not sure how he justified a £30m price tag though, as he appears to be quite limited in what he can do (interceptions and passing are his best assets, but he doesn't make too many tackles and has been useless going forward so far). I'm sure that we will see him express himself more as time goes on, but for now I'm perfectly happy with him as he is, after all we don't seem to be struggling for goals up to now!
 
mansour's tow ropes said:
but he doesn't make too many tackles

Only Zabaleta of all the squad regulars makes more tackles per game. And only the creative trio (Silva, Nasri, Navas) and Aguero make more 'key' passes. So, Fernandinho is offering plenty on the defensive and attacking side, especially considering he has been instructed to play a deeper, more reserved role for City than his former box-to-box role at Shakhtar.
 
Fern and Silva were our best players yesterday both were outstanding. I know it was only Norwich but our Brazilian midfield dynamo is growing into his role next to Yaya very fast indeed. Forget about his price tag, he's a player we've needed since Barry's pace deserted him two seasons ago and he looks capable of playing in every single game of a very long season, he's that good.
 
mammutly said:
chesterguy said:
mammutly said:
On the contrary. I acknowledged he was a good player but questioned whether he was a superstar. That isn't slagging him off.

I think he's very good at what he does, but I'm not amazed that Paulinho keeps him out of the national team, as he is arguably the more complete player. That said, Fernandinho would be good addition to any squad and he is getting better as he becomes more used to the pace of the premiership football. In my opinion, he is not the complete article because he is not strong in possession, although he makes up for that to a large extent with quick and intelligent passing.

Overall a very good player and an asset to the squad.

mammutly said:
From what I've seen of him in pre season, I'm thinking Jo.

Though obviously I hope I am wrong

I am sure you meant that as a compliment!!!!!!

A large number of exclamation marks doesn't make your point any stronger. I questioned his ability at the beginning, but explicitly stated that I hoped early impressions were mistaken, which, to large extent, they have been.

I think it does. You started off comparing him to Jo ie meaning he was poor. You are now are stating that you think he is a good player so which is it?
 
mansour's tow ropes said:
some excellent performances from him over the last few games. I think his partnership and understanding with Toure is brilliant, they complement each other so well.

Still not sure how he justified a £30m price tag though, as he appears to be quite limited in what he can do (interceptions and passing are his best assets, but he doesn't make too many tackles and has been useless going forward so far). I'm sure that we will see him express himself more as time goes on, but for now I'm perfectly happy with him as he is, after all we don't seem to be struggling for goals up to now!
Well he deserves his place ahead of very good players in Milner and Rodwell so that in part justifies his fee (if anything can)

If you want to be critical of City, don't look at the midfield and forward line which are the best in the country by some distance. The defence is the weakness.

Our keeper went under the media microscope and we lost Kompany and Demichelis so basically the heart of our defence has been missing
 
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