Fernando has turned it around

Standing to applaud him on many occasions today.....particularly first half. It was just great to see him winning the ball back so many times. City in the first half were unrecognisable from the team I have been watching for the last few months. I thought the players would be knackered from mid week....why did it take so long to play and press like this.
 
I wouldn't mind keeping him as a depth player, but i also wouldn't be too bothered if we sold him. Like Mangala, his lack of technical qualities makes him a partial liability under Guardiola.
 
I wouldn't mind keeping him as a depth player, but i also wouldn't be too bothered if we sold him. Like Mangala, his lack of technical qualities makes him a partial liability under Guardiola.

this is my take on the situation as well.

whilst both fernando and mangala have come on in recent months i am still yet to be convinced that guardiola is going to favour either of them.
 
Hopefully pep will turn both world class mango definitely has the potential.

in the right system mangala could be world class, but that system isn't an open expansive system like guardiola plays.

mangala for me looks a mourinho/ simeone type defender in that what is primarily required from the defenders is defensive responsibility and with that you get well protected from your midfield and fullbacks.

it's a bit like huth and morgan. in ranieri's system they look class, put them in guardiola's system and they will will become exposed.

mangala's game isn't being great with the ball and being intelligent with it like say pique or alaba or boateng are.

henry said a few weeks ago something on the lines of that if you can't lay as a defender you won't play under pep.
 
He has played better for a while, but again why has it taken so long for him to step his game up ? Is he now looking for a move ? Just approaching this from another angle because he has also been very poor as well along with a lot of others


He's been playing well for months. Before that he was getting used to be league and for most of last season he was playing through a groin injury which required surgery in the summer, and clearly robbed him of mobility.
 
Wow what performances has been from him. Three times in a week, massive cover for our back four.

When I saw the teamsheet I thought we would be overrun, but he was immense. Worked like a trojan. I said at one point in the second half that we had got de Jong back. If he can perform like that next season we will be in good shape.
 
Maybe it's just me, but Navas seems to be putting a shift in. It's just his ability dragging him down.

Having seen Navas on nearly every occasion at The Etihad and we fans bemoaning an end product of some consistency, and then seeing Sterling yesterday, I am just wondering whether they have been instructed to forgo any attempts to get behind the full back, onto the goal line and deliver the cross all defenders dread - the ball from the dead ball line! Just a thought.
 
Having seen Navas on nearly every occasion at The Etihad and we fans bemoaning an end product of some consistency, and then seeing Sterling yesterday, I am just wondering whether they have been instructed to forgo any attempts to get behind the full back, onto the goal line and deliver the cross all defenders dread - the ball from the dead ball line! Just a thought.
No i think the opposition know how to play them. Both have a stunning lack of variety to their game and their output is hugely reduced by simply adopting a deeper back line. Neither are a threat from outside the box, so if you sit deep against them, they can't reach their top level of speed without running out of pitch. Both would be theoretically good on the counter but neither really have a reliable cutting edge to their game, so promising moments will more often than not, turn to waste.

The very best thing you can say about both players is that they work hard. And that's shocking when you consider they've cost £65m between them.
 
ive enjoyed his performances of late but cringe a little at how many bog average ones he's put in in his time at City.

if he can maintain his current form under Pep he'll have a good squad role to play
 
he has improved because being honest he was a non entity.. Not a bad player and not a good one.. Hope he is replaced
 
He played really well yesterday...............for 25 minutes, then he required an oxygen tank. We must be one of the least fit teams in the league, do we actually train? As soon as the team decide that we are going to press hard from the start, it lasts no longer than 30 minutes and he and Fernandinho look like they're about to collapse at any minute.

Then we have their 2nd goal, look how slow Fernando was to react, he meanders over towards Sanchez, then by the time he realises we are in trouble its 2-2!

Those that are saying this waste of space has turned a corner and is an important cog in the machine might wanna consider where we are in the table, where we are looking at finishing the season and how shit weve been for the past 18 months. Players like Fernando, playing week in week out, is one of the main reasons one of the most expensively assembled squads in history is facing a season in the Europa League.
 
He, like all of them, looks unfit (not injured, they just do not have good cardiovascular fitness which i have aimed at the manager for two years).

The two Ferns in the home game against Madrid and the game yesterday started like two world class centre mids and ended like two old men (slight exaggeration, maybe, haha!).
 
He, like all of them, looks unfit (not injured, they just do not have good cardiovascular fitness which i have aimed at the manager for two years).

The two Ferns in the home game against Madrid and the game yesterday started like two world class centre mids and ended like two old men (slight exaggeration, maybe, haha!).
Proud of his performances over the last few months, I'm starting to think he may have half a chance under Pep. The two ferns can't be accused of not putting the effort in.

Completely agree about fitness though. I know it's hard but they were unable to sustain the effort much beyond the hour mark in both Real games and yesterday. I made the same point last week; more runners, less power lifters.
 
For me, he's been or best player since the turn of the year.

Really pleased for him but it's hard to tell whether he has truly been as good as I think or it's just because the majority of the squad look like they'd rather be pissing gallstones.

Either way, well done Fernando.
 
His form more or less mirrors Javi Garcia's, shit to start with then gradually improve. I wonder if we will sell Fernando like we did Garcia?
 

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