Formula 1 2022

Very exciting 'race' again. Probably.
Did the first three in pole position finish exactly in the same positions they started off in again per chance?
 
mccity said:
As boring as Monaco is, we're getting to a point now where almost every race is largely boring.

These cars are just too big. I assume it's for safety (fair enough), but we're going to have to wait a while before things pick up again.
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Not true... The Saudi Grand Prix this year was an epic contest and the standard of races from the moment Red Bull caught up with Mercedes has been generally very good.

It just that Monaco is always terrible for racing. I watched the Monaco Historic event a few weeks ago and basically anything newer than the early 70s was basically a parade just like the modern race.

It was the very old 60s and older cars that provided the most exciting races because the track was big enough for them to actually provide overtaking.

With all the money Monaco save from not paying a hosting fee I do wonder if they could build a track extension into the harbour that would provide a sequence that allows passing.
 
Another procession with no real overtaking (think there was one on-track overtake) with most of it done in the pits. Le Clerc very unlucky but RB took their opportunity and got their reward.

The procession was best summed up by, first Hamilton not being able to get by Ocon, and latterly Alonso. Then, Hamilton gives up and ensures that Alpine are backed into the crowd to ensure they get no points for the second car.

Well done to Perez, once in front he took control, knowing that unless he made a mistake, he was winning the race.

Although I‘m not in for the way the owners going, I wouldn’t mind F1 getting rid of this circuit. The most boring in the F1 season and was only there to give the drivers a chance to stay at home.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Another procession with no real overtaking (think there was one on-track overtake) with most of it done in the pits. Le Clerc very unlucky but RB took their opportunity and got their reward.

The procession was best summed up by, first Hamilton not being able to get by Ocon, and latterly Alonso. Then, Hamilton gives up and ensures that Alpine are backed into the crowd to ensure they get no points for the second car.

Well done to Perez, once in front he took control, knowing that unless he made a mistake, he was winning the race.

Although I‘m not in for the way the owners going, I wouldn’t mind F1 getting rid of this circuit. The most boring in the F1 season and was only there to give the drivers a chance to stay at home.
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Gasly managed to pull off two, the second one was impressive round the harbour area where it looks impossible to over take, the rain and slippery surface were probably the reason he managed to get it done. Monaco certainly needs looking at, you put the car on the racing line and the person behind has no chance.
 
crooky said:
Not true... The Saudi Grand Prix this year was an epic contest and the standard of races from the moment Red Bull caught up with Mercedes has been generally very good.

It just that Monaco is always terrible for racing. I watched the Monaco Historic event a few weeks ago and basically anything newer than the early 70s was basically a parade just like the modern race.

It was the very old 60s and older cars that provided the most exciting races because the track was big enough for them to actually provide overtaking.

With all the money Monaco save from not paying a hosting fee I do wonder if they could build a track extension into the harbour that would provide a sequence that allows passing.
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I thought the same yesterday, although rather than building into the harbour, i figured they must be able to just buy one or two buildings to widen the track in a certain area in order to facilitate overtaking.
 
I'm probably on my own here by the sound of it, but I love the Monaco grand prix. Its an iconic event. The atmosphere, the claustrophobic nature of the track, the need for pin point accuracy of car placement, no room for error, makes it special in my opinion.
Yes, there's no overtaking ops, but that for me isn't really an issue for 1 race of the season, it's a technical challenge, a real test of driver skill and courage. Some of the on boards really give a sense of this, more so than any other circuit I'd say.
I'd be sad if it was canned, but posters do make good points about altering the track to make it a bit more interesting.
 
SWP's back said:
Like father like ****

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What were they supposed to do when they had Sainz wedged in the middle of the pair of them? It turned into a very good day for Redbull on strategy and at this early stage of the season when even Mercedes look like they are getting their shit together, they have the constructors championship to think about.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
What were they supposed to do when they had Sainz wedged in the middle of the pair of them? It turned into a very good day for Redbull on strategy and at this early stage of the season when even Mercedes look like they are getting their shit together, they have the constructors championship to think about.
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Perez also out qualified gobshite Max. Verstappen is the most petulant spoilt brat on the circuit. Forgets the occasions where Perez has allowed Max to overtake under team orders.
 
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BlueMoonday said:
Perez also out qualified gobshite Max. Verstappen is the most petulant spoilt brat on the circuit. Forgets the occasions where Perez has allowed Max to overtake under team orders.
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Wasn't it in Spain where Perez did just that? Literally the previous race to Monaco? The one that Max won?

Hope I'm right or I may look foolish.
 
DrBlueBob said:
Wasn't it in Spain where Perez did just that? Literally the previous race to Monaco? The one that Max won?

Hope I'm right or I may look foolish.
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That is correct, at the time Perez understandably wasn't happy but Verstappen had the pace so fair enough, the strategy ensured a red bull 1-2.

As a poster has already said, during the Monaco GP Sainz was in P2 with Verstappen in P3 so not sure exactly how Perez was favoured...
 
Verstappens’ dad acting like a spoilt brat surely. There was simply no way for different treatment, if there was any, as Perez was simply quicker in the qualifying races. And we could all see a Ferrari pushing Perez who held on to his lead in a very professional way imo.

I very much doubt Verstappen had any say in what dad spouts in what is his fathers’ podcast. And it wouldn’t be the first time Verstappen had no warmth for what his father does. All I know is that Verstappen told Dutch tv there wasn’t a lot he or anyone could do on this circuit. He made sure to keep LeClerc behind him and was ready to pounce once Sainz would make a mistake. If that would have happened I’m sure team orders would instruct Perez to let Verstappen take the lead.

Than again for the still frustrated and bitter ones ( and yes, Hamiltons’ performances don’t help), if you manage to watch the documentary about Verstappen you will find he and his father have a love-hate relation.
 
SWP's back said:
Like father like ****

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From the coverage I watched, I saw no evidence that Max was in any way aggrieved with the winner or the team performance, quite the opposite.

What his father says is up to him, but it doesn't necessarily reflect the thoughts of Max.............unless of course, in some way you want to. Fancy that, eh!
 
king's new clothes syndrome, as a spectacle Monaco depends on accidents, weather and teams/drivers dropping a bollock. For racing just substitute parade. Over-taking opportunities are needed, Monaco has none. Aero already prevents close following/pressuring, a narrow concrete-lined track with the shortest straights, the event only exists for money reasons, far more so than any other. As a spectator/fan it's best to watch on t.v.
 
Slipper One said:
From the coverage I watched, I saw no evidence that Max was in any way aggrieved with the winner or the team performance, quite the opposite.

What his father says is up to him, but it doesn't necessarily reflect the thoughts of Max.............unless of course, in some way you want to. Fancy that, eh!
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We all know Max is a ****. The above shows we know where he gets it from. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
 
yerwot? said:
king's new clothes syndrome, as a spectacle Monaco depends on accidents, weather and teams/drivers dropping a bollock. For racing just substitute parade. Over-taking opportunities are needed, Monaco has none. Aero already prevents close following/pressuring, a narrow concrete-lined track with the shortest straights, the event only exists for money reasons, far more so than any other. As a spectator/fan it's best to watch on t.v.
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It’s the worst and most pointless event in the calendar. I don’t think any genuine racing fan would miss it.
 
The sport will die if these ridiculous team orders are what we can look forwards to for the rest of the season.
 
yerwot? said:
king's new clothes syndrome, as a spectacle Monaco depends on accidents, weather and teams/drivers dropping a bollock. For racing just substitute parade. Over-taking opportunities are needed, Monaco has none. Aero already prevents close following/pressuring, a narrow concrete-lined track with the shortest straights, the event only exists for money reasons, far more so than any other. As a spectator/fan it's best to watch on t.v.
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The big issue Monaco has is it has basically been kept solely because it is the glamorous party destination for F1. We now have Miami, next year we'll have Vegas. Its going to lose that crown pretty quickly. And once that goes, the reasons to keep it sadly disappear. Especially as its about the only track not to pay money to F1 to host.
 
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