Garcia

[Firasdo]

How many minutes will Garcia and Rodwell get this season ?

We paid 26 mil on their transfer fees + around 7 mil a year for their combined salary.

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

How many minutes will Garcia and Rodwell get this season ?

We paid 26 mil on their transfer fees + around 7 mil a year for their combined salary.

Rodwell will get plenty of game time if he stays injury free.

 

[daxman]

Seriously can someone please just tell me what he's actually done wrong?

I've asked that question about 5 times, you'd think if he was so incredibly shit there might be a couple of times people could pick out.

He plays majority of his games in central midfield , just because you can't think of any direct errors that have led to goals don't change the fact he is abysmal. Cardiff could have easily scored 3 more from open play due to his lack of pace albeit in a position that is not his 'speciality'. We almost play with 10 men when he's on the field because in every single game he's played people have walked past him like he isn't there and he spends the entire game chasing shadows when we don't have the ball. His passing (even short passes) is woeful, always bobbling and behind the man. He doesn't bring any qualities to the side other than being a threat from set pieces.

Well, for such a woeful passer, he has completed 94% of his passes. Now for comparison. That is better than

Clichy, Yaya, Lescott, Aguero, Milner, Silva, Dihno, Navas, Kolarov, Nasri, Negredo, Nastasic, Dzeko, and Zabaleta. In short, he has been the 2nd best passer on the team. 2nd only to Kompany. So short passing or not, clearly passing is NOT one of his weaknesses. Bobbling, sure. But complete. He is a danger from set pieces. Gave up a few chances against Cardiff, quite unlike Lescott giving up one against Hull.

I am not saying he is a great player, but he simply is not shite. He is not far off from most of our none stars. And he simply is not the worst player on the squad.

 

[TheSoulhunter]

Yeah, he isn't shit, he's good but not on the level of top players. But I still like him.

 

[Firasdo]

Seriously can someone please just tell me what he's actually done wrong?

I've asked that question about 5 times, you'd think if he was so incredibly shit there might be a couple of times people could pick out.

He plays majority of his games in central midfield , just because you can't think of any direct errors that have led to goals don't change the fact he is abysmal. Cardiff could have easily scored 3 more from open play due to his lack of pace albeit in a position that is not his 'speciality'. We almost play with 10 men when he's on the field because in every single game he's played people have walked past him like he isn't there and he spends the entire game chasing shadows when we don't have the ball. His passing (even short passes) is woeful, always bobbling and behind the man. He doesn't bring any qualities to the side other than being a threat from set pieces.

Well, for such a woeful passer, he has completed 94% of his passes. Now for comparison. That is better than

Clichy, Yaya, Lescott, Aguero, Milner, Silva, Dihno, Navas, Kolarov, Nasri, Negredo, Nastasic, Dzeko, and Zabaleta. In short, he has been the 2nd best passer on the team. 2nd only to Kompany. So short passing or not, clearly passing is NOT one of his weaknesses. Bobbling, sure. But complete. He is a danger from set pieces. Gave up a few chances against Cardiff, quite unlike Lescott giving up one against Hull.

I am not saying he is a great player, but he simply is not shite. He is not far off from most of our none stars. And he simply is not the worst player on the squad.

Can he be better defender than Lescott ?

 

[Matt.D]

Seriously can someone please just tell me what he's actually done wrong?

I've asked that question about 5 times, you'd think if he was so incredibly shit there might be a couple of times people could pick out.

He plays majority of his games in central midfield , just because you can't think of any direct errors that have led to goals don't change the fact he is abysmal. Cardiff could have easily scored 3 more from open play due to his lack of pace albeit in a position that is not his 'speciality'. We almost play with 10 men when he's on the field because in every single game he's played people have walked past him like he isn't there and he spends the entire game chasing shadows when we don't have the ball. His passing (even short passes) is woeful, always bobbling and behind the man. He doesn't bring any qualities to the side other than being a threat from set pieces.

Well, for such a woeful passer, he has completed 94% of his passes. Now for comparison. That is better than

Clichy, Yaya, Lescott, Aguero, Milner, Silva, Dihno, Navas, Kolarov, Nasri, Negredo, Nastasic, Dzeko, and Zabaleta. In short, he has been the 2nd best passer on the team. 2nd only to Kompany. So short passing or not, clearly passing is NOT one of his weaknesses. Bobbling, sure. But complete. He is a danger from set pieces. Gave up a few chances against Cardiff, quite unlike Lescott giving up one against Hull.

I am not saying he is a great player, but he simply is not shite. He is not far off from most of our none stars. And he simply is not the worst player on the squad.

His passing percentage doesn't effect what I said. I said its always bobbling and behind the man. Now if the receiving player has to break their stride and then get the ball (which is bobbling and taking an age to get there) under control, how does that help? It slows every attack down, so the fact that "94%" are supposedly complete, they are certainly not helpful.

 

[NQCitizen]

Seriously can someone please just tell me what he's actually done wrong?

I've asked that question about 5 times, you'd think if he was so incredibly shit there might be a couple of times people could pick out.

He plays majority of his games in central midfield , just because you can't think of any direct errors that have led to goals don't change the fact he is abysmal. Cardiff could have easily scored 3 more from open play due to his lack of pace albeit in a position that is not his 'speciality'. We almost play with 10 men when he's on the field because in every single game he's played people have walked past him like he isn't there and he spends the entire game chasing shadows when we don't have the ball. His passing (even short passes) is woeful, always bobbling and behind the man. He doesn't bring any qualities to the side other than being a threat from set pieces.

Well, for such a woeful passer, he has completed 94% of his passes. Now for comparison. That is better than

Clichy, Yaya, Lescott, Aguero, Milner, Silva, Dihno, Navas, Kolarov, Nasri, Negredo, Nastasic, Dzeko, and Zabaleta. In short, he has been the 2nd best passer on the team. 2nd only to Kompany. So short passing or not, clearly passing is NOT one of his weaknesses. Bobbling, sure. But complete. He is a danger from set pieces. Gave up a few chances against Cardiff, quite unlike Lescott giving up one against Hull.

I am not saying he is a great player, but he simply is not shite. He is not far off from most of our none stars. And he simply is not the worst player on the squad.

This is one of the most balanced posts about Garcia. Actually a fair bit of rational discussion in this thread shame the really vociferous critics that just trot endless clichés won't see it.

 

[Cobwebcat]

He plays majority of his games in central midfield , just because you can't think of any direct errors that have led to goals don't change the fact he is abysmal. Cardiff could have easily scored 3 more from open play due to his lack of pace albeit in a position that is not his 'speciality'. We almost play with 10 men when he's on the field because in every single game he's played people have walked past him like he isn't there and he spends the entire game chasing shadows when we don't have the ball. His passing (even short passes) is woeful, always bobbling and behind the man. He doesn't bring any qualities to the side other than being a threat from set pieces.

Well, for such a woeful passer, he has completed 94% of his passes. Now for comparison. That is better than

Clichy, Yaya, Lescott, Aguero, Milner, Silva, Dihno, Navas, Kolarov, Nasri, Negredo, Nastasic, Dzeko, and Zabaleta. In short, he has been the 2nd best passer on the team. 2nd only to Kompany. So short passing or not, clearly passing is NOT one of his weaknesses. Bobbling, sure. But complete. He is a danger from set pieces. Gave up a few chances against Cardiff, quite unlike Lescott giving up one against Hull.

I am not saying he is a great player, but he simply is not shite. He is not far off from most of our none stars. And he simply is not the worst player on the squad.

This is one of the most balanced posts about Garcia. Actually a fair bit of rational discussion in this thread shame the really vociferous critics that just trot endless clichés won't see it.

Well most city fans have rated him last of 17

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.../manchester-city-fans-player-ratings-5848334?

 

[FantasyIreland]

. And he simply is not the worst player on the squad.

Who is worse?

Even Kolarov offers more.

 

[NQCitizen]

Amazing sample size of 3 there, where a midfielder has actually played in defence once for more than 19 minutes.

 

[Paul11/12]

Seriously can someone please just tell me what he's actually done wrong?

I've asked that question about 5 times, you'd think if he was so incredibly shit there might be a couple of times people could pick out.

He plays majority of his games in central midfield , just because you can't think of any direct errors that have led to goals don't change the fact he is abysmal. Cardiff could have easily scored 3 more from open play due to his lack of pace albeit in a position that is not his 'speciality'. We almost play with 10 men when he's on the field because in every single game he's played people have walked past him like he isn't there and he spends the entire game chasing shadows when we don't have the ball. His passing (even short passes) is woeful, always bobbling and behind the man. He doesn't bring any qualities to the side other than being a threat from set pieces.

Well, for such a woeful passer, he has completed 94% of his passes. Now for comparison. That is better than

Clichy, Yaya, Lescott, Aguero, Milner, Silva, Dihno, Navas, Kolarov, Nasri, Negredo, Nastasic, Dzeko, and Zabaleta. In short, he has been the 2nd best passer on the team. 2nd only to Kompany. So short passing or not, clearly passing is NOT one of his weaknesses. Bobbling, sure. But complete. He is a danger from set pieces. Gave up a few chances against Cardiff, quite unlike Lescott giving up one against Hull.

I am not saying he is a great player, but he simply is not shite. He is not far off from most of our none stars. And he simply is not the worst player on the squad.

My misses passes to the 8 year old and the ball gets to him 100% of the time, she's got a kit, shall I tell her to bring her boots next home game?

 

[Cobwebcat]

Amazing sample size of 3 there, where a midfielder has actually played in defence once for more than 19 minutes.

Well it's running all season so I look forward to him moving up the table from last as the season progresses. Right now I agree with them that he is the worst player that is on our squad.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

. And he simply is not the worst player on the squad.

Who is worse?

Even Kolarov offers more.

It's a clash of the titans. Kolarov and Garcia, who is the shittest? YOU DECIDE!

 

[NQCitizen]

Amazing sample size of 3 there, where a midfielder has actually played in defence once for more than 19 minutes.

Well it's running all season so I look forward to him moving up the table from last as the season progresses. Right now I agree with them that he is the worst player that is on our squad.

He might well be the worst player of 17 top class players but that doesn't make him a terrible player.

That's ignoring the fact there's way more than 25 players in the squad.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Amazing sample size of 3 there, where a midfielder has actually played in defence once for more than 19 minutes.

Well it's running all season so I look forward to him moving up the table from last as the season progresses. Right now I agree with them that he is the worst player that is on our squad.

He might well be the worst player of 17 top class players but that doesn't make him a terrible player.

That's ignoring the fact there's way more than 25 players in the squad.

How far we have come from Ball, Mills, and Castillo, eh?

 

[NQCitizen]

Fuck me how is this debate still going. He has been called up for Spain. Torres still gets called up for Spain and hes been very average for the best part of 3 years. it doesn't take away the fact Garcia has never had a good game in the English premier league and is surely the slowest central midfielder in the league.

His game has never and will never suit the premier league. You don't have to be Usain Bolt to play his position but you have to be able to move & turn quicker than a double decker bus, Garcia cannot.

... a double decker bus goes a lot faster than footballers do.

 

[Matt.D]

Fuck me how is this debate still going. He has been called up for Spain. Torres still gets called up for Spain and hes been very average for the best part of 3 years. it doesn't take away the fact Garcia has never had a good game in the English premier league and is surely the slowest central midfielder in the league.

His game has never and will never suit the premier league. You don't have to be Usain Bolt to play his position but you have to be able to move & turn quicker than a double decker bus, Garcia cannot.

... a double decker bus goes a lot faster than footballers do.

Does it accelerate & turn quicker as I alluded to?

 

[vintiz]

Mikel obi or gracia who would you have ? :p

 

[FantasyIreland]

Well it's running all season so I look forward to him moving up the table from last as the season progresses. Right now I agree with them that he is the worst player that is on our squad.

He might well be the worst player of 17 top class players but that doesn't make him a terrible player.

That's ignoring the fact there's way more than 25 players in the squad.

How far we have come from Ball, Mills, and Castillo, eh?

Yep but what's your point? Or are you just reaffirming our good fortune and subsequently what an unrecognisable club we have become?

 

[salfordbluetrue]

I have sat here for weeks watching the rubbish put on this topic .me granny can play better than garcia blah blah blah .garcia spent all last season carrying yaya who when wobbled forward had st johns in a panic as to whether he would need oxygen to get back garcia is slow but huddleston kicked out of tottenham for being slow and having a bigger turning circle than a double decker bus was man of the match last week a good manager gets the best out of his players a bad manager asks for more players