Garcia

[BufordUSABlue]

He plays majority of his games in central midfield , just because you can't think of any direct errors that have led to goals don't change the fact he is abysmal. Cardiff could have easily scored 3 more from open play due to his lack of pace albeit in a position that is not his 'speciality'. We almost play with 10 men when he's on the field because in every single game he's played people have walked past him like he isn't there and he spends the entire game chasing shadows when we don't have the ball. His passing (even short passes) is woeful, always bobbling and behind the man. He doesn't bring any qualities to the side other than being a threat from set pieces.

Well, for such a woeful passer, he has completed 94% of his passes. Now for comparison. That is better than

Clichy, Yaya, Lescott, Aguero, Milner, Silva, Dihno, Navas, Kolarov, Nasri, Negredo, Nastasic, Dzeko, and Zabaleta. In short, he has been the 2nd best passer on the team. 2nd only to Kompany. So short passing or not, clearly passing is NOT one of his weaknesses. Bobbling, sure. But complete. He is a danger from set pieces. Gave up a few chances against Cardiff, quite unlike Lescott giving up one against Hull.

I am not saying he is a great player, but he simply is not shite. He is not far off from most of our none stars. And he simply is not the worst player on the squad.

My misses passes to the 8 year old and the ball gets to him 100% of the time, she's got a kit, shall I tell her to bring her boots next home game?

Made me chuckle that :-)
Cheers!

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

Mikel obi or gracia who would you have ? :p

Mikel every day of the week.

 

[Ethan23]

Mikel obi or gracia who would you have ? :p

Mikel every day of the week.

Agreed. but then tbh i don't think there is a CDM in the prem who i wouldnt have over him.

There's a game for you Garcia fans... name a worse CDM in the premier league

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

Mikel obi or gracia who would you have ? :p

Mikel every day of the week.

Agreed. but then tbh i don't think there is a CDM in the prem who i wouldnt have over him.

There's a game for you Garcia fans... name a worse CDM in the premier league

Anderson? Cattermole? errr uhm.... Bannan?


Nope I'd still pick them over Garcia.

 

[Ethan23]

Mikel every day of the week.

Agreed. but then tbh i don't think there is a CDM in the prem who i wouldnt have over him.

There's a game for you Garcia fans... name a worse CDM in the premier league

Anderson? Cattermole? errr uhm.... Bannan?


Nope I'd still pick them over Garcia.

That's my issue with Garcia, even the lesser CDM's in the prem add a bit of bite and energy in the middle (Tiote, Cattermole, Parker) even bloody Gelson used to put himself about and make a nuisance of himself. Garcia is so limited and his performances are so laboured. Still in shock we paid 16 million for him, would rather have paid 3 million and brought in Parker, better still, push Milner in the center!

 

[FantasyIreland]

I have sat here for weeks watching the rubbish put on this topic .me granny can play better than garcia blah blah blah .garcia spent all last season carrying yaya who when wobbled forward had st johns in a panic as to whether he would need oxygen to get back garcia is slow but huddleston kicked out of tottenham for being slow and having a bigger turning circle than a double decker bus was man of the match last week a good manager gets the best out of his players a bad manager asks for more players

What a load of nonsense.......

Garcia carried yaya? Behave,he's so wooden he has trouble carrying himself.

As for Huddlestone,he's a player Garcia could only dream of being,athletic,aggressive and able to dictate midfield

 

[daxman]

Mikel obi or gracia who would you have ? :p

Another player every fan disparage all the time. He is a top player. Has gone thru 5 top class managers Mourihno, Ancelotti, Hindink, De Mateo, and Benitez. And all saw fit to keep him and often start him. Chelsea also plays better when he is on the field.It matters not who is put ahead of him, that person ends up leaving and he stays.

 

[decmancity]

Garcia has gone through four top managers, Jorge Jesus, Roberto Mancini, Del Bosque and now Pellegrini.

Yet according to the all knowing posters on here he is shit.

The likes of Cattermole are better than him and so on.

 

[Blue Elvis]

Garcia has gone through four top managers, Jorge Jesus, Roberto Mancini, Del Bosque and now Pellegrini.

Yet according to the all knowing posters on here he is shit.

The likes of Cattermole are better than him and so on.

IMO a lot of the anti-Garcia comments seem to come from supporters who have forgotten (or maybe never witnessed) where we have come from.
Garcia isn't shit and he isn't world class but any City fan aged over 30 can remember players we have had to cheer who were a hell of a lot worse.

There was a time when he would have been seen as a big improvement on what we already had and the fact that we are even having this discussion shows just how far we have come in the last 5 years. We can have a go at one individual but the truth is that collectively, the players, the management team and at times even the fans let the club down last year. We were just not good enough. But that's last season's excuse.

This season we need to match Mourinhos siege mentality and close ranks round ALL the squad.

For whatever reason (injury , position, getting used to the PL etc) I still think we haven't seen the best of him and if he contributes to us winning anything this season he will have done a good enough job for me.

Tin hat ready.
CTID

 

[Blue Haze]

He's like the Spanish Christian Poulsen, mysteriously hopping from one big club to another seemingly without the ability. I bet he ends up at a big Italian club next.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

IMO a lot of the anti-Garcia comments seem to come from supporters who have forgotten (or maybe never witnessed) where we have come from.
Garcia isn't shit and he isn't world class but any City fan aged over 30 can remember players we have had to cheer who were a hell of a lot worse.

I don't think people have forgotten where we have come from at all. We are trying to challenge for titles now, we are spending huge amounts more on fees and wages and rightly expect and require much much more than we did from our players. Let's get this straight Garcia is exactly the kind of journeyman, lower half of the Prem (at best) cack that we watched prior to the takeover. He is certainly much better than lots of players that we watched for City in the years on our way down to and in the third flight. So what? Just because he is better than Gary Mason doesn't mean that he should be anywhere near a supposed title challenging team. It's about context you see and in the current context, he is absolutely shit. It's not his fault, I certainly don't hate him, I just wish we'd never signed him.

 

[hgblue]

IMO a lot of the anti-Garcia comments seem to come from supporters who have forgotten (or maybe never witnessed) where we have come from.
Garcia isn't shit and he isn't world class but any City fan aged over 30 can remember players we have had to cheer who were a hell of a lot worse.

I don't think people have forgotten where we have come from at all. We are trying to challenge for titles now, we are spending huge amounts more on fees and wages and rightly expect and require much much more than we did from our players. Let's get this straight Garcia is exactly the kind of journeyman, lower half of the Prem (at best) cack that we watched prior to the takeover. He is certainly much better than lots of players that we watched for City in the years on our way down to and in the third flight. So what? Just because he is better than Gary Mason doesn't mean that he should be anywhere near a supposed title challenging team. It's about context you see and in the current context, he is absolutely shit. It's not his fault, I certainly don't hate him, I just wish we'd never signed him.

Gary Mason dislikes this post ;).

 

[chezequerz]

IMO a lot of the anti-Garcia comments seem to come from supporters who have forgotten (or maybe never witnessed) where we have come from.
Garcia isn't shit and he isn't world class but any City fan aged over 30 can remember players we have had to cheer who were a hell of a lot worse.

I don't think people have forgotten where we have come from at all. We are trying to challenge for titles now, we are spending huge amounts more on fees and wages and rightly expect and require much much more than we did from our players. Let's get this straight Garcia is exactly the kind of journeyman, lower half of the Prem (at best) cack that we watched prior to the takeover. He is certainly much better than lots of players that we watched for City in the years on our way down to and in the third flight. So what? Just because he is better than Gary Mason doesn't mean that he should be anywhere near a supposed title challenging team. It's about context you see and in the current context, he is absolutely shit. It's not his fault, I certainly don't hate him, I just wish we'd never signed him.

Smartest post in this thread i think.

 

[fuzz barricade]

That's why the Spain national team rate him.

So is it they who are wrong? The 3 time winners IN A ROW of international competition . Or some city fans with nothing better to do with their lives than come on a Internet forum related to Manchester city and slag off one of its own players.

I really wonder about this hmmm? : /

 

[chezequerz]

That's why the Spain national team rate him.

So is it they who are wrong? The 3 time winners IN A ROW of international competition . Or some city fans with nothing better to do with their lives than come on a Internet forum related to Manchester city and slag off one of its own players.

I really wonder about this hmmm? : /

They call Torres up about as often does that mean he's a great player for Chelsea?

I have loads better to do but occasionally i like to discuss the merits or lack thereof of the players the team i support and have an emotional investment in with other like minded people is my right. If everyone just sat around praising everything and never disputing anythings faults the world would be a worthless place to live.

 

[NQCitizen]

That's why the Spain national team rate him.

So is it they who are wrong? The 3 time winners IN A ROW of international competition . Or some city fans with nothing better to do with their lives than come on a Internet forum related to Manchester city and slag off one of its own players.

I really wonder about this hmmm? : /

They call Torres up about as often does that mean he's a great player for Chelsea?

I have loads better to do but occasionally i like to discuss the merits or lack thereof of the players the team i support and have an emotional investment in with other like minded people is my right. If everyone just sat around praising everything and never disputing anythings faults the world would be a worthless place to live.

When one of our players scores the winner at the Camp Nou to put us into a CL final we win I'll probably give him some leeway.

Torres is the perfect example of another player who just takes a load of stick despite being alright. He's the perfect Garcia comparison but not the way I guess you intended.

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

Garcia has gone through four top managers, Jorge Jesus, Roberto Mancini, Del Bosque and now Pellegrini.

Yet according to the all knowing posters on here he is shit.

The likes of Cattermole are better than him and so on.

Would Cattermole have offered less last season?

He's just not suited to Man City, I'm sure he would be a lot better if you put him in Juve's system and Vidal and Marchisio provided the legs around him but for Man City where we we play a 4-2-3-1/ 4-2-2-2 formation he isn't suited to it. He has to go down as Mancini's worst signing. Boteng we sold for a profit and Maicon whilst being well past and looking like a "jobs for the boys" job he never cost 16 million. Pogba was available for free last season.

 

[taconinja]

Garcia has gone through four top managers, Jorge Jesus, Roberto Mancini, Del Bosque and now Pellegrini.

Yet according to the all knowing posters on here he is shit.

The likes of Cattermole are better than him and so on.

Would Cattermole have offered less last season?

He's just not suited to Man City, I'm sure he would be a lot better if you put him in Juve's system and Vidal and Marchisio provided the legs around him but for Man City where we we play a 4-2-3-1/ 4-2-2-2 formation he isn't suited to it. He has to go down as Mancini's worst signing. Boteng we sold for a profit and Maicon whilst being well past and looking like a "jobs for the boys" job he never cost 16 million. Pogba was available for free last season.

Seriously once is enough with trying to make Cattermole look good in comparison. It really does you no favors. On a personal level I mean let alone on a football-knowledge level.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

That's why the Spain national team rate him.

So is it they who are wrong? The 3 time winners IN A ROW of international competition . Or some city fans with nothing better to do with their lives than come on a Internet forum related to Manchester city and slag off one of its own players.

I really wonder about this hmmm? : /

From what I can tell he played 21 minutes in a friendly for them 16 months ago and that is it (that is from Wiki so admittedly could be wrong). Now I am not suggesting that that means he is a bad player, it doesn't, but I think it is a bit disingenuous to imply that it makes him particularly highly rated by Spain or that them winning 3 trophies in a row is any kind of reflection of his ability. And to be honest, even if he had played every match for Spain in the last 12 months, if every time I saw him for City he was deeply unimpressive then that is what I would judge him on. You know, you really should get something better to do with your life than come on a City forum with an opinion.

 

[vintiz]

Agreed. but then tbh i don't think there is a CDM in the prem who i wouldnt have over him.

There's a game for you Garcia fans... name a worse CDM in the premier league

Anderson? Cattermole? errr uhm.... Bannan?


Nope I'd still pick them over Garcia.

That's my issue with Garcia, even the lesser CDM's in the prem add a bit of bite and energy in the middle (Tiote, Cattermole, Parker) even bloody Gelson used to put himself about and make a nuisance of himself. Garcia is so limited and his performances are so laboured. Still in shock we paid 16 million for him, would rather have paid 3 million and brought in Parker, better still, push Milner in the center!

Well garcia is an areal treat ;)