Garry Cook - Clueless

[Braggster]

I have little time for Cook as a football executive and think that we could be in a considerably better position with a cooler headed, cleverer football operator in charge. That said:

Christ, what an over the top OP. I would second Billy's arguments and also add that, given that the prices at City remain more than competitive with the league as a whole - never mind with the top clubs - an increase was inevitable sooner or later.

I do have sympathy with people who are being forced to move, and fully understand why those people are moaning/complaining. But to suggest that this is some kind of heinous act is ridiculous. Fans get tremendous value at City - relative to the premier league in general - and the owner/management have already made plenty of 'gestures' (Hamburg for £5, anyone?). It is supreme ingratitude to think that the fans deserve such gestures on a permanent basis and frankly reeks of a sense of entitlement to me.

Prices were bound to go up sooner or later. Can't see what the big deal is.

 

[Corky]

Simple question: Out of the top 5 current clubs who have the cheapest season tickets?

Second question: Who out of the top 5 clubs will have the cheapest season tickets after a 6% rise next season?

Still great value for money, plus we will probably spen another 100-200M next season!

Villa and it isn't 6%, it is a lot more in reality.

 

[Tueart1976]

Simple question: Out of the top 5 current clubs who have the cheapest season tickets?

Second question: Who out of the top 5 clubs will have the cheapest season tickets after a 6% rise next season?

Still great value for money, plus we will probably spen another 100-200M next season!

Villa and it isn't 6%, it is a lot more in reality.

villa top 5?

 

[JohnMaddocksAxe]

they haven't bought this club for the supporters mate....lets be honest....they bought the club to turn into a global marketing brand and ultimately make them money....we, the supporters are a side product of that

I didn't say they bought it for the supporters. I said in buying it they have done a hell of a lot for the supporters.

Like I say once again, so no one misunderstands. I totally get why people are fucked off, and Bluemoon is here to have a moan at the club. But the OP is attacking Garry Cook, in a very personal manner and trying to absolve ADUG of any blame. I'm not having that. He has no idea of how much involvement Khaldoon had. Irrespective, I find it hard to believe that Cook is left to make decisions like this, without fully explaining them to Khaldoon and getting his approval...

Right, let me clarify. If this is the work of Khaldoon or the Sheikh and Cook has fought tooth and nail to try to prevent this, then I will take it all back and lay the blame firmly at their door. I will lay some of it at their door anyway, seeing as they will no doubt have a big veto button that they could press if they wanted.

However, the reason that Cook sticks in my throat is that he has constantly peddled the 'fan's man' tag. Constantly. Taking in a lot of people.

This is the only issue that directly affects every single fan. And, I ask you, if he, as CEO does not have a hand in this, a say in it, a significant (if not overwhelming) voice in this decision, then what is his remit as CEO?

I have no issue with cirticising ADUG if they are behind this. I have given them enough praise and been so impressed with their actions, behaviour and words that I have no issue whatsoever with balancing that with cirticism over this.

I'll repeat thought. I doubt very much that the owner coulod care less whether season ticket prices go up, stay the same or increase. It is such an insignificant issue to a man of his wealth. Why should he?

No, a much more reasonable expectation is that those in charge of running the business have come to the conclusion, somehow, who knows how, that this decision is what the club/business needs. And that is, ultimately, how the club is run. Those delegated do the work and the advising. And that means Cook (and if you want Khaldoon). I doubt the Sheikh has been burning the midnight oil, scouring the figures, agonising over whether tickets prices should go up.

As for the comment about it not affecting me. I thought we had gotten past the idea that I was Simon Hatterstone or whatever journo you wish to name.

Suffice to say, my circumstances are no-one's business on here. But the reason that I can afford to meet these costs ais that I am young and lucky enough to have little in the way of responsibility for others. Not that that should be of any concern. But if I did have to worry about looking after others I can tell you now, despite the ridiculous amount of money that I have spent on the game over the years, football would be one of the first things on the list to get the chop. The same goes if there happened to be any other change in my circumstances.

The principle stinks. Everyone is skimming the club for cash, left right and centre, including those employed by the club, yet we are the ONLY, yes, the ONLy people deemed to be due to cough up more (apart from the owner, obviously, but I doubt anyone has the neck to compare his circumstances to the normal fan).

 

[bizzbo]

I think your rhetoric is getting a bit OTT

who's skimming the club???

 

[mainestand]

Just checked how much my season card will work out next season, top price level 3, works out at £26.31 a game, now for me thats not bad, if for example i wanted to go and watch Oldham athletic it would cost me £20.00

 

[badge]

it's all rather embarrassing really. this behaving like spoilt little brats. the second increase in prices since 2003 for fuck sake! five fucking per cent! "i want this. i want that." give yourselves a slapped arse and go and sulk in your bedrooms. pathetic.

 

[Anonymous]

I didn't say they bought it for the supporters. I said in buying it they have done a hell of a lot for the supporters.

Like I say once again, so no one misunderstands. I totally get why people are fucked off, and Bluemoon is here to have a moan at the club. But the OP is attacking Garry Cook, in a very personal manner and trying to absolve ADUG of any blame. I'm not having that. He has no idea of how much involvement Khaldoon had. Irrespective, I find it hard to believe that Cook is left to make decisions like this, without fully explaining them to Khaldoon and getting his approval...

Right, let me clarify. If this is the work of Khaldoon or the Sheikh and Cook has fought tooth and nail to try to prevent this, then I will take it all back and lay the blame firmly at their door. I will lay some of it at their door anyway, seeing as they will no doubt have a big veto button that they could press if they wanted.

However, the reason that Cook sticks in my throat is that he has constantly peddled the 'fan's man' tag. Constantly. Taking in a lot of people.

This is the only issue that directly affects every single fan. And, I ask you, if he, as CEO does not have a hand in this, a say in it, a significant (if not overwhelming) voice in this decision, then what is his remit as CEO?

I have no issue with cirticising ADUG if they are behind this. I have given them enough praise and been so impressed with their actions, behaviour and words that I have no issue whatsoever with balancing that with cirticism over this.

I'll repeat thought. I doubt very much that the owner coulod care less whether season ticket prices go up, stay the same or increase. It is such an insignificant issue to a man of his wealth. Why should he?

No, a much more reasonable expectation is that those in charge of running the business have come to the conclusion, somehow, who knows how, that this decision is what the club/business needs. And that is, ultimately, how the club is run. Those delegated do the work and the advising. And that means Cook (and if you want Khaldoon). I doubt the Sheikh has been burning the midnight oil, scouring the figures, agonising over whether tickets prices should go up.

As for the comment about it not affecting me. I thought we had gotten past the idea that I was Simon Hatterstone or whatever journo you wish to name.

Suffice to say, my circumstances are no-one's business on here. But the reason that I can afford to meet these costs ais that I am young and lucky enough to have little in the way of responsibility for others. Not that that should be of any concern. But if I did have to worry about looking after others I can tell you now, despite the ridiculous amount of money that I have spent on the game over the years, football would be one of the first things on the list to get the chop. The same goes if there happened to be any other change in my circumstances.

The principle stinks. Everyone is skimming the club for cash, left right and centre, including those employed by the club, yet we are the ONLY, yes, the ONLy people deemed to be due to cough up more (apart from the owner, obviously, but I doubt anyone has the neck to compare his circumstances to the normal fan).

The reason Cook sticks in your throat is because he's Thaksin's guy and he made the "he's a great guy to play golf with" comment...

It's nice to see you backtrack ever so slightly - but everything I've posted stands. It's fucking bang out of order to try and lay the blame for this at Cook's door when you know full well that it will have had the support and backing of the Khaldoon - and was probably dreamed up by an accountant or FD somewhere...

As for Cook being "fan's man" - he is. Every supporter that I know that has met him have nothing but great things to say about him. The same cannot be said for Ali Mac and his fucking cronies.

Frankly, JMA...you seem to have lost sight of where we've come from...

 

[Manchester1894]

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In a drive to attract more young supporters, who are conspicuously rare in the ground, City have slashed next year's under-16s season card by 56% to £95

The families can f*** off moaning. They are still 6% better off than in 2006!

 

[Tueart1976]

it's all rather embarrassing really. this behaving like spoilt little brats. the second increase in prices since 2003 for fuck sake! five fucking per cent! "i want this. i want that." give yourselves a slapped arse and go and sulk in your bedrooms. pathetic.

spot on!