Gas & Electricity

[crublue1]

He champions free speech my arse.
He’s a **** who should have gone to prison for what he did to Andrew Sachs.

What did he do to him? Remind me, as I don't remember the charge, or the court case that would have landed him in prison.
Sounds like wishful thinking to me, but luckily we don't have a judicial procedure set by armchair judges.
But I take your point, and you're entitled to express it. It's called free speech, and you've skillfully demonstrated it.
Bravo sir.

 

[Gabriel]

 

[west didsblue]

It'd have to get pretty cheap to beat 300 miles at a fiver or so a pop. If they didn't offer EV tariffs in today's climate then it'd really be a struggle though to justify even though a charge is still half the price of petrol.

My diesel costs £70-£80 to fill up at the moment, plus car tax £500 per year, servicing £300 per year.... EV's don't have any of these costs so in the grand scheme of things it's all about weighing things up.

A lot of suppliers have stopped the EV tariffs for new customers. If the kWh cost goes above around 40p, it will be in the same ballpark as running a petrol or diesel car. Filling up away from home will definitely be at high tariffs anyway making EVs only worthwhile if you can get all the charge you need from a home charging point at the off peak rate. This crisis could completely fuck over the EV industry.

 

[BlueHammer85]

A lot of suppliers have stopped the EV tariffs for new customers. If the kWh cost goes above around 40p, it will be in the same ballpark as running a petrol or diesel car. Filling up away from home will definitely be at high tariffs anyway making EVs only worthwhile if you can get all the charge you need from a home charging point at the off peak rate. This crisis could completely fuck over the EV industry.

Why some electric cars could soon be more costly to run than petrol motors

Charging electric vehicles will soon become more expensive amid soaring energy prices

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Saddleworth2]

Because the Russian war on Ukraine has caused all gas prices to rise. Renewable electricity is pegged to gas prices (yes, I know).

 

[west didsblue]

Why some electric cars could soon be more costly to run than petrol motors

Charging electric vehicles will soon become more expensive amid soaring energy prices

www.telegraph.co.uk

I’m sticking with my diesel for the foreseeable future. What’s the point of getting an EV with all the infrastructure issues and slow charging when the economic advantage is rapidly disappearing. Drove to and from Birmingham yesterday for the match (160 miles round trip) and got 60mpg and used less than a quarter of a tank. So maybe just over £20. An similarly sized EV would use about 60kWh which would be over £30 at the new price cap rate. It only makes sense if you can get the off peak rate.

Probably different economics for predominantly city driving as EV efficiency doesn’t change much whereas I’d probably use twice as much diesel/petrol per mile driving round town as I would on a long run.

 

[NJ Blue]

Call me cynical, but I have been wondering when the tories will create another VIP Lane for their mates (and pub landlords) with no experience whatsoever, to supply wind turbines and solar panels at hugely inflated prices to help get the country through the energy crisis??

 

[Octavian]

Because the Russian war on Ukraine has caused all gas prices to rise. Renewable electricity is pegged to gas prices (yes, I know).

That last bit begs belief.

I really feel like we’re being taken for mugs.

How our governments have just let us be reliant on Russian so much is sickening.

 

[west didsblue]

That last bit begs belief.

I really feel like we’re being taken for mugs.

How our governments have just let us be reliant on Russian so much is sickening.

We’re not reliant on Russian gas. We’re reliant on gas from anywhere that is being traded at an inflated wholesale price because of Russia. With our North Sea reserves it is within the power of our government to secure that gas at much cheaper rates as technically it owns it and companies pay licence fees to extract it. That would significantly reduce the gas that the retailers need to buy from elsewhere, and with an adjustment to the pricing mechanism it could be made cheaper for consumers.

The government won’t do it because it will reduce the profits of Shell, BP, Centrica and the other companies that extract gas in the North Sea. We are being taken for mugs - it’s a huge money grab from the population. Every penny we pay ends up somewhere and the excessive amounts end up with the big companies, and the government are letting it happen because they refuse to go act against the free market in any significant way.

The threat of nationalisation would probably be enough to get significant discounts to the wholesale price. Other European countries don’t have the luxury of a domestic gas source and are forced to pay the market rate. We shouldn’t be in that position.

 

[Bigga]

What did he do to him? Remind me, as I don't remember the charge, or the court case that would have landed him in prison.
Sounds like wishful thinking to me, but luckily we don't have a judicial procedure set by armchair judges.
But I take your point, and you're entitled to express it. It's called free speech, and you've skillfully demonstrated it.
Bravo sir.

Good lord, mate!

I applaud you engaging such an unhinged answer! Should be going to prison for an ill judged phone prank?

Good grief. no wonder society's fucked...