General Election - 4th July 2024

[BobKowalski]

They are genuinely held concerns. But we don’t have any choice. Unless we want our ill and elderly to perish.

Pretty sure that is in the Reform manifesto.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Labour are winning with some margin so let’s see how they perform. Been a long run of conservatives.

Long run as in diarrhea?

 

[Gabriel]

Reeves mentioning closer ties with the EU in certain areas (FT) but not rejoining.

 

[blueinsa]

Tories got their lapdogs out trying to scare voters that labour will tax breathing etc.

To be fair, the left wing on here do nothing but warn us about what the liar Starmer and Tory Reeves will do so you can’t just blame the Tories for that.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Good question, hadn’t thought about committees. I’ve been busy wondering where they’re all going to sit!

Focussing on the important things, I see!
First win a seat, then find somewhere to seat yourself.

 

[blue for life]

Grant Shapps on Sky now. What a ****! At least that’s the name he is using today!

 

[Vic]

To be fair, the left wing on here do nothing but warn us about what the liar Starmer and Tory Reeves will do so you can’t just blame the Tories for that.

Yeah, but the left are annoyed because Labour won't raise taxes (and that the Tories are lying about it). They fear that the Tories are lying!

I'm torn between thinking Starmer could start juggling with the Ming vase and say we'll raise taxes to pay for all the public services you want (or want back) or that it's best to stick to "Tory-lite" (with some renationalisation) in order to wipe out the Tories as the main opposition in Parliament to raising taxes to fund public services.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I accept what they say ref Covid and Ukraine but thats all they have - the trot the excuses out but don't offer any creative way of fixing things other than raising taxes, denying they are raising taxes and saying Labour ( who are not the Govt ) will raise taxes - they are not a serious Govt

 

[bluethrunthru]

Mad Nads did fuck all in her community for a year whilst writing a book and begging Johnson for a shag - the idea she is "on the doorstep" in this campaign is laughable

 

[bluenova]

Not sure I agree.

Think he was a ray of sanity. Sometimes you need to pull someone in from outside out of necessity. As long as it’s by exception I think it’s perfectly legitimate as an occasional last resort.

Cameron massively miscalculated and has fucked this country up, but he was always a realist.

I wonder what he really thinks. About Brexit.

He must so regret it destroying his legacy. And it was self-inflicted!

I don't doubt that Cameron has a bit more ability than many Tory MPs, but they put one of the most important roles in Government in the Lords, where MPs are less able to challenge what he does.

And why did they do it? Not for some huge altruistic reason - for the sake of the country - they did it because they were so far back in the polls, and we're desperate to save the Tory party.

Bear in mind we're also talking about someone who walked off whistling at the first sign that being PM was difficult, rather than sticking around and trying to actually argue for a less destructive version of Brexit.

And his biggest contribution to public life in the years between wandering off, and being brought back? That just happened to be the Greensill lobbying scandal, where he tried make money off the back of his Government contacts during Covid.