General Election - 4th July 2024

[Mike N]

Classic BBC

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Haven’t seen the debate but the question about ‘likeability’ made me laugh. No way 33% said Sunak is likeable. Fred West or Jimmy Saville would get better numbers than Sunak!

 

[Don Karleone]

The problem is that the clip in the twitter link you're showing isn't the one that's being shared.

There's a shorter one which starts with the bit about removing people from Bangladesh, then chops in part of the earlier interview to say he knows how to do it. It's deliberately edited, with the order of his words changed, and any context of it being about illegal immigration/failed asylum claims being taken out.

If it was that full clip, I'd agree, and suggest that there's no need to be so bullish with the response.

Given that it deliberately mixes up the order of what he's saying, and clips other parts, it would be pretty foolish to start apologising.

Add it to Ashworth's comments yesterday. Both mentioned Bangladesh. It isn't an accident.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Add it to Ashworth's comments yesterday. Both mentioned Bangladesh. It isn't an accident.

Listening to LBC, Iain Dale was making a big thing of this and although I missed a lot of it, Dale had to read out a statement that said that the video he had watched had been edited and taken completely out of context. Dale quickly went to extended adverts and, while I was driving back, never came back on.

Said to me that he’d watched the edited version and was now questioning what the editors had allowed him to put forward as an argument.

 

[Don Karleone]

Listening to LBC, Iain Dale was making a big thing of this and although I missed a lot of it, Dale had to read out a statement that said that the video he had watched had been edited and taken completely out of context. Dale quickly went to extended adverts and, while I was driving back, never came back on.

Said to me that he’d watched the edited version and was now questioning what the editors had allowed him to put forward as an argument.

The words still came out his mouth and Ashworth's. There was no reason to mention Bangladesh.

 

[Chris in London]

Anyone who does not think after 6 months in office Labour will come out with things are far worse than we thought and there will be significant tax rises is living in cloud cuckoo land!

Project fear

Remember that?

 

[Chris in London]

Can’t remember.

If I was going to take a guess…Eamonn Holmes!

Julian Malins KC

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Julian Malins KC

KC ****.

 

[Eccles Blue]

Can anyone else hear a woman shouting in the background on this PM debate?

Protestors outside the hall apparently.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Protestors outside the hall apparently.

Yes, picked up on that later. Knew it was in Nottingham but didn’t realise it was at NTU. Know the Newton and Arkwright buildings well.

 

[law74]

But I still think Starmer was really very poor tonight and when he’s challenged on certain issues he genuinely struggles. Again, the fact that he tried to fall back on this working class stuff and Sunak’s wealth tells you how much he was struggling. I would rather that sort of stuff was left out of politics.

As for the style of debate, I don’t see that as a relevant point. It is what it is and personally I place some value on being able to think on your feet.

When most of the electorate realise that sunak is totally out of touch with the real life consequences of 14 years of self-servatives government, it is very relevant in this election, and you don't rise through the legal profession to head the CPS without being able to think on your feet.
Here's looking forward to tomorrow week with a Labour government and hopefully a Lib-dems opposition