General Election - 4th July 2024

Who will you be voting for in the General Election?

  • Labour

    Votes: 95 62.5%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 14 9.2%
  • Reform

    Votes: 16 10.5%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 11 7.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 14 9.2%

  • Total voters
    152
Social media or reality? What prospects are there for young people in general? I'm not saying there aren't any, but they are immensely shitter than just a few years ago.
Well social media does have a part to play. Whilst it's kind of off topic there was a discussion on Radio 5 live around young offenders saying that even though in some cases they were offered jobs, they couldn't afford the lifestyle they wanted, it was much easier to go out and rob a pair of expensive trainers or a designer hoodie than save up for them like most people.

The whole culture of wanting instant gratification without the effort is a problem in general.
 

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National Service might be a good idea in some countries in certain contexts and with specific parameters, but here it’s a non-starter.

For a start it will cost billions to implement (money we’re getting from where exactly?). And what will we get for that? A load of 18 year olds doing things they don’t want to do, a handful of which will probably cause more harm than good through disruption. The conscientious ones that wanted to give it a go would have to be babysat by the armed forces or whoever they’re volunteering for. These are people with limited skills and zero experience. Can you imagine the time it is going to take from qualified staff to do that?

Then you have the idea of enforcement. If people don’t do it, what then? A fine? In which case it just becomes yet another thing to add to the list of things separating rich and poor people in this country.

And finally, this is just adding an extra obstacle that young people have to navigate that older people never did. You’re taking time away from them that can be used for more value-add pursuits. Older people didn’t have to deal with Brexit, had free or cheaper university, didn’t get set back by COVID, have to navigate impossible house prices, drop in the real-terms value of wages… the Tories seem hellbent on making life as hard as possible for the younger generations who already have a hell of a lot to overcome to have anything resembling a successful life.

In short it’s another stupid idea from a fundamentally stupid party. It will satisfy the usual tub thumping segment of society who likes the sound of things like this without ever actually thinking them through.
 
If anybody for a second thinks this is a good use of £2.5Bn when we have people using food banks, have a huge backlog of asylum claims to process and a health service that is literally crumbling to the ground then they are beyond saving.

It's probably a Possum plan

They are so resigned to losing that they're going to focus only on desperate policies. They're hoping the voters will say, 'no need to vote Labour, as the Tories are already dead'.
 
National Service might be a good idea in some countries in certain contexts and with specific parameters, but here it’s a non-starter.

For a start it will cost billions to implement (money we’re getting from where exactly?). And what will we get for that? A load of 18 year olds doing things they don’t want to do, a handful of which will probably cause more harm than good through disruption. The conscientious ones that wanted to give it a go would have to be babysat by the armed forces or whoever they’re volunteering for. These are people with limited skills and zero experience. Can you imagine the time it is going to take from qualified staff to do that?
Not to mention the fact that anything anyone is effectively being coerced into under threat of criminal sanctions is ripe for abuse. Imagine if your boss could get you thrown into prison ffs.
 

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