General Election - December 12th, 2019

[The perfect fumble]

Yep any of the above would do me.

Blair who lied to get us in to war and Cameron who gave us the Brexit referendum?

 

[ganganvince]

Blair who lied to get us in to war and Cameron who gave us the Brexit referendum?

Over Corbyn who laughed with Adams following the Warrington bomb and Boris the clown yep.

 

[Len Rum]

Smart money seems to be on Bonson resigning as PM prior to Oct 19 when the pro forma letter in the 'no deal' bill has to be sent to the EU requesting an extension.
That way he won't have to sign the letter.
Liz will then have to call on someone else who can command the house to do it.
Doubt if this could be a Tory so it would have be Jezz as the leader of the official opposition in coalition with the rest.The opposition parties would probably have to agree to this as they want the letter signing.
Der fiffel would then contest the general election as leader of the opposition on a people vs parliament ticket.
With Jezz as PM!
LOL.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Over Corbyn who laughed with Adams following the Warrington bomb.

Do you know if any bombs went off before any of this?

 

[Len Rum]

Do you know if any bombs went off before any of this?

You missed out the one of Liz shaking hands with Martin McGuinness.

 

[The perfect fumble]

You missed out the one of Liz shaking hands with Martin McGuinness.

My bad.

How about the Queen hosting Bashar al-Assad, the President of Syria?

 

[cibaman]

Smart money seems to be on Bonson resigning as PM prior to Oct 19 when the pro forma letter in the 'no deal' bill has to be sent to the EU requesting an extension.
That way he won't have to sign the letter.
Liz will then have to call on someone else who can command the house to do it.
Doubt if this could be a Tory so it would have be Jezz as the leader of the official opposition in coalition with the rest.The opposition parties would probably have to agree to this as they want the letter signing.
Der fiffel would then contest the general election as leader of the opposition on a people vs parliament ticket.
With Jezz as PM!
LOL.

If the Queen follows the customary practice and asks the resigning PM who could command the support of the house, Johnson will probably advise her that if she sends for Corbyn he (Johnson) will immediately trigger a vote of no confidence. Obviously Johnson couldn’t guarantee that Corbyn would lose the vote, but if Corbyn is immediately kicked out, who would be in charge? Who would ensure the continuing day to day running of HM’s Government? It’s a potential recipe for chaos.

Johnson might also advise the Queen that, if instead, she sends for say Clarke or Harman then Johnson (who would then be the leader of the opposition) would commit to not immediately triggering a vote of no confidence. Instead he would allow them a reasonable period to allow for an orderly transition of government to take place before the caretaker government oversees a General Election. Who’s she going to call?

To stop this scenario from happening, doesn’t Corbyn need to demonstrate, before Johnson resigns, that he can form a government? And is that likely?

 

[ganganvince]

Do you know if any bombs went off before any of this?

Have you got any snaps of him with Ken Dodd as they would be just as relevant to our conversation.

 

[Len Rum]

If the Queen follows the customary practice and asks the resigning PM who could command the support of the house, Johnson will probably advise her that if she sends for Corbyn he (Johnson) will immediately trigger a vote of no confidence. Obviously Johnson couldn’t guarantee that Corbyn would lose the vote, but if Corbyn is immediately kicked out, who would be in charge? Who would ensure the continuing day to day running of HM’s Government? It’s a potential recipe for chaos.

Johnson might also advise the Queen that, if instead, she sends for say Clarke or Harman then Johnson (who would then be the leader of the opposition) would commit to not immediately triggering a vote of no confidence. Instead he would allow them a reasonable period to allow for an orderly transition of government to take place before the caretaker government oversees a General Election. Who’s she going to call?

To stop this scenario from happening, doesn’t Corbyn need to demonstrate, before Johnson resigns, that he can form a government? And is that likely?

As I understand it Lillibet has first to try and invite a member of the Govt (on Bonson's advice) - it 's unlikely he would do that as there will be no takers. Under the constitution she then has to look to the leader of the opposition. Given the time econstraints and the need to get the fcuking letter signed the opposition parties may have no option to agree to Jezz fronting up the new Government otherwise no letter applying for delay will be sent.
Of course if Dil feffil tries for maxium chaos and resigns say on October 18 ( the day before the letter is due) then we are in unchartered territory but I suspect Liz might have to unilaterally appointment a member of the Tory Party as PM or sign it herself or get an extension to the bill or fcuk knows.
PS no way would bonson call a vonc. The letter would probablyhave gone by then. He'd probably lose the vote anyway.

 

[George Hannah]

If you want to persuade it is not enough to just hold an opinion, one must substantiate it. You don't substantiate anything you post, for you veracity on any given point, stems not from conformity to facts, but entirely on whether you believe it. That is why you make bold statements, that are clearly correct, free of any obligation whatsoever to back them up.

for example?