General Election - December 12th, 2019

[George Hannah]

Not a single word in there states they were a leader in the Communist Party, not a single one.
just be a big boy and admit you’ve fabricated the link.

Nothing is fabricated by me - those were the bios for Milne & Murray from the 54 core influencers in the FT chart which I posted to help because it is behind a paywall. It is irrefutable that Seamus Milne and Andrew Murray, for decades two leading figures in the GB Communist Party, have been installed at the heart of the Labour Party and control its policies. This is what was in the link included in my original post:

"The most important of these individuals who are now on Corbyn’s inner team are Andrew Murray and Seumas Milne. Both Murray and Milne, together with another old comrade, Steve Howell, whom Milne brought in as Deputy Communications Director in February 2017, were originally members of Straight Left, a pro-Soviet faction within the CPGB, disparagingly referred ever since to as “tankies” because of their support for the Soviet invasions of Czechoslovakia and Afghanistan. Straight Left presented itself as a Labour organisation but in fact it was a front which gave a route for communists to clandestinely influence the Labour Party and turn it to the left. One contemporary critic observed that “honesty and ideological openness are not its greatest assets". https://standpointmag.co.uk/issues/...-udy-jeremy-corbyn-britain-road-to-socialism/

 

[Rascal]

You often make me smile @Rascal but not today. Your chum Mr Corbyn and his Marxist friends are preventing the country from delivering its verdict on Brexit before exit day and at the same time they are deliberately encouraging Farage and inciting very dangerous forces in so doing.

Farage has never ever needed any encouragement mate.

How people were taken in by this fraud is something beyond my comprehension, I often say I hate Tories, I don't really, I can live with One Nation Toryism as its inherently noble if not something I agree with in totality but Farage is a person I really do despise with every fibre of my being. His false bonhomie really gets to me, because he is false, a charlatan hiding behind a cloak of respectability when he is in fact a nasty vicious racist **** who has used the good people of our country for his own nefarious ends. He has taken in so many people with his pint and a fag man of the people persona I despair.

I would gladly dump the Labour Party and Corbyn right now if it meant that the **** was sent to South Georgia to live alone with some penguins and eat there guana for his meals. He epitomises everything that is wrong about our country and the disgraceful disgusting propaganda he has employed has sullied our nation for generations. If he was on fire I would not piss on the ****, I would throw petrol on the bastard.

And I am not a violent man, I normally don't ever wish ill on people, whatever their beliefs. but him, he is different and you are 100% correct. The **** has unleashed forces on this nation that are dangerous and are becoming increasingly volatile and I fear it will end very badly, very badly indeed whilst that smug bastard stands at a bar with a fag and a pint laughing his stupid fucking head off. Yet people will still kow-tow to him.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I watched Bozo the Clown in Ireland just now - the look on his face when Varadkar was telling the press that they has no negotiations and no proposals from the UK side to consider - his face was pained rather like his piles were playing up or he was trying to hold a fart in. Thats the problem when you meet people who don't believe your lies Bozo - it gets quite uncomfortable.

 

[M18CTID]

I can understand people who do not follow politics at all & don't understand the EU etc, for falling for this shit & not realising how it would turn out, purely assuming they might be better off, so giving it a go.

The kind of people who come on here however, spouting chapter & verse about minute details.

They knew in advance, the kind of people who were backing this (& still do). They knew how those useless cunts operate. They knew about Corbyn.

They still voted, to give these pathetic cunts, brand new, extra power to dick us around even more than usual & to push their own agendas even more than usual.

It is no surprise we have ended up in a fucking mess, it was the most liiely option, if leave won, then we would be relying on Moggs & Johnsons, Abbotts & Corbyns, to sort the fucking thing out.

It's like sacking Txiki because we missed out on Maguire, Pogba, Fred, Sanchez & giving the job to Steve Maclaren.

I'm still not sure how anyone could've predicted that we'd go from Cameron, to May, to May calling a general election and fucking it up so much that she had to enter into a coalition with the DUP, to May negotiating a deal, to that deal being voted down 3 times in parliament, to May resigning, and finally to Johnson becoming PM.. That's a fair few leaps. On the other side, I suppose it's a bit clearer because it's been Corbyn throughout.

Anyway, what's wrong with Abbott & Corbyn? Better than Abbott & Costello surely

 

[Chippy_boy]

What a bizarre take on events, it requires mental gymnastics of some magnitude to do that back flip. There have been a few Brexit exit days where we didn't quite exit, one in January, when we have had both an election and in all probability a referendum, doesn't look like a Marxist coup to me and it doesn't look like a Marxist coup to Swinson and Clarke either.

As for deliberately encouraging Farage and dangerous forces, you're off your head. If you're looking to apportion blame, look to those who unleashed those dangerous forces.

It is a patently obvious statement of fact that a Tory (Cameron) called the referendum.

After the result however, all political parties have been involved and are responsible for where we are now. I find it rather ironic that the political opportunism which Corbyb has pursued throughout - continually taking whichever line was most advantageous to him and the Labour party, rather than doing what's best for the country - has actually been supported by you throughout. With your numerous "never interrupt an enemy whilst he is making a mistake" type comments.

And now your trying to pretend Corbyn's simply acting in the countries' best interest? Well that's utter tripe and we all know it. Well, 82% of us do anyway.

According to Ipsos MORI: "When asked whose interests Jeremy Corbyn puts first during Brexit negotiations, just under one in five (18%) think that he puts the country’s interests first."

 

[Chippy_boy]

Anyway, what's wrong with Abbott & Corbyn? Better than Abbott & Costello surely

Ironically, not.

 

[George Hannah]

Farage has never ever needed any encouragement mate.

How people were taken in by this fraud is something beyond my comprehension, I often say I hate Tories, I don't really, I can live with One Nation Toryism as its inherently noble if not something I agree with in totality but Farage is a person I really do despise with every fibre of my being. His false bonhomie really gets to me, because he is false, a charlatan hiding behind a cloak of respectability when he is in fact a nasty vicious racist **** who has used the good people of our country for his own nefarious ends. He has taken in so many people with his pint and a fag man of the people persona I despair.

I would gladly dump the Labour Party and Corbyn right now if it meant that the **** was sent to South Georgia to live alone with some penguins and eat there guana for his meals. He epitomises everything that is wrong about our country and the disgraceful disgusting propaganda he has employed has sullied our nation for generations. If he was on fire I would not piss on the ****, I would throw petrol on the bastard.

And I am not a violent man, I normally don't ever wish ill on people, whatever their beliefs. but him, he is different and you are 100% correct. The **** has unleashed forces on this nation that are dangerous and are becoming increasingly volatile and I fear it will end very badly, very badly indeed whilst that smug bastard stands at a bar with a fag and a pint laughing his stupid fucking head off. Yet people will still kow-tow to him.

I understand and fully share your antipathy for Farage which is exactly why Corbyn delaying the election purely to damage the Tories by forcing them into a pact with the Brexit Party is so contemptible. They are following the classic Marxist textbook instructions to polarize politics by encouraging extremism and destabilizing democratic institutions. Our constitutional processes have been deliberately rendered chaotic and a national sense of disorder and loss of control is being fostered through widespread direct action in the streets. Momentum demonstrations are used to physically disrupt debate and travelling mobs encourage and then goad extremist opponents to create dangerous tensions. I could go on but I sense I'm wasting my breath.

 

[M18CTID]

Farage has never ever needed any encouragement mate.

How people were taken in by this fraud is something beyond my comprehension, I often say I hate Tories, I don't really, I can live with One Nation Toryism as its inherently noble if not something I agree with in totality but Farage is a person I really do despise with every fibre of my being. His false bonhomie really gets to me, because he is false, a charlatan hiding behind a cloak of respectability when he is in fact a nasty vicious racist **** who has used the good people of our country for his own nefarious ends. He has taken in so many people with his pint and a fag man of the people persona I despair.

I would gladly dump the Labour Party and Corbyn right now if it meant that the **** was sent to South Georgia to live alone with some penguins and eat there guana for his meals. He epitomises everything that is wrong about our country and the disgraceful disgusting propaganda he has employed has sullied our nation for generations. If he was on fire I would not piss on the ****, I would throw petrol on the bastard.

And I am not a violent man, I normally don't ever wish ill on people, whatever their beliefs. but him, he is different and you are 100% correct. The **** has unleashed forces on this nation that are dangerous and are becoming increasingly volatile and I fear it will end very badly, very badly indeed whilst that smug bastard stands at a bar with a fag and a pint laughing his stupid fucking head off. Yet people will still kow-tow to him.

Fucking hell, that's a bit harsh......on South Georgia's penguins

 

[The perfect fumble]

It is a patently obvious statement of fact that a Tory (Cameron) called the referendum.

After the result however, all political parties have been involved and are responsible for where we are now. I find it rather ironic that the political opportunism which Corbyb has pursued throughout - continually taking whichever line was most advantageous to him and the Labour party, rather than doing what's best for the country - has actually been supported by you throughout. With your numerous "never interrupt an enemy whilst he is making a mistake" type comments.

And now your trying to pretend Corbyn's simply acting in the countries' best interest? Well that's utter tripe and we all know it. Well, 82% of us do anyway.

According to Ipsos MORI: "When asked whose interests Jeremy Corbyn puts first during Brexit negotiations, just under one in five (18%) think that he puts the country’s interests first."

Ridiculous.

Corbyn has wounded the Labour Party electorally because of the stance he has taken, trying to create a compromise that would encompass both leave and remain voters, has lost him members and poll numbers to the Liberal Democrats. If he was the opportunist you make him out to be, he would have adopted the Lib Dem Brexit stance.

 

[George Hannah]

What a bizarre take on events, it requires mental gymnastics of some magnitude to do that back flip. There have been a few Brexit exit days where we didn't quite exit, one in January, when we have had both an election and in all probability a referendum, doesn't look like a Marxist coup to me and it doesn't look like a Marxist coup to Swinson and Clarke either.

As for deliberately encouraging Farage and dangerous forces, you're off your head. If you're looking to apportion blame, look to those who unleashed those dangerous forces.

Oh! A quick question, how does Tony Blair fit into this Marxist cabal? He's been banging on non-stop, to anyone who'll listen, about not having an election on Boris's timetable.

Don't tell me! He's the Manchurian Candidate!

So what is the reason for the official opposition maintaining Johnson in office now the delay bill is on the statute book?