General Election - December 12th, 2019

[Chippy_boy]

£3?

Only joking mate - but you do I am sure recognise that your personal circumstances are distinctly different than that of the average UK couple with a couple of kids, who can barely make ends meet as it is. Let alone if their mortgage shoots up, or 1 of them loses their job, or their taxes rise etc.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I actually don't think you are that far off tbh.
The key is I think Corbyn would probably want to leave with a deal rather than Johnson who seems like he wants to drive the country off a cliff

Absolutely true.

 

[The blue phantom]

Johnson's gone full gammon.

 

[SWP's back]

The only exception would be expats such as SWP who doesn't have to suffer the consequences of a Corbyn-led omni-shambles, or tactical voters.

Starting to mildly annoy me this.

1) my uk earnings are taxed at higher rate in the UK

2) my thoughts are entirely based on living in the UK in the next tax year (wife wants a British passport and father is very unwell)

 

[jay_mcfc]

Corbyn doesn’t even need to destroy Bozo, the 21 are gonna do it for him! This is gonna get dirty and nasty and I fucking love it!

 

[SWP's back]

Not good enough mate.

Oh fuck. That’s a pity.

 

[Chippy_boy]

It’s entirely plausible I could now vote Labour, in fact likely. A few months ago it was impossible.

There will be many more like me.

Why are Corbyn's approval ratings steadily declining then do you think? From a high two years ago, he's been dropping, dropping, dropping. Seems somewhat paradoxical that all these people who thought he was great before - but didn't vote for him - now think he's a bit shit really - but decide they will vote for him?

Fumble is right about one thing though (broken clock etc): I do fear Corbyn. I don't remotely expect him to win a GE or to ever become PM. But the prospect that it could even conceivably happen, is terrifying.

 

[M18CTID]

You don’t find a consensus with a terrorist by shooting them and locking them up. You end up sitting down and talking to them. See NI, Afghanistan etc. The same will happen in Israel eventually. If you want peace you have to , eventually, sit down and talk. JC shaking hands with SF? Where are they now? Power sharing in NI(when they sort out Stormont), McGuiness shaking hand with the queen anyone?

I speak as ex forces who lost mates in NI but with hindsight can see the way the land has to lie.

Oh, I totally agree. The thing is though, Corbyn had fuck-all to do with the peace process and the signing of the GFA and anyone claiming otherwise is talking bollocks. Unless Corbyn turning up at an Irish Republican meeting and observing a minute's silence for 8 IRA members taken out by the SAS in Loughall in 1987 constitutes brokering a peace deal that is.

The fact is that when it came to the peace process itself, Corbyn was nowhere near any of the main players:

Tony Blair
John Major before him
Mo Mowlam
Bill Clinton
John Hume (the man who I'd give most credit to)
David Trimble

And as much as many of us wouldn't want to admit it:

Gerry Adams
Martin McGuinness

All played their part. At no stage during the years of negotiations did Corbyn's name ever come up. Now, suddenly, in the past few years he's hilariously being credited as being a major part of it

 

[The perfect fumble]

Oh fuck. That’s a pity.

I know, but what can you do? I'm afraid you scored an own goal and we didn't need VAR to see it.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Why are Corbyn's approval ratings steadily declining then do you think? From a high two years ago, he's been dropping, dropping, dropping. Seems somewhat paradoxical that all these people who thought he was great before - but didn't vote for him - now think he's a bit shit really - but decide they will vote for him?

Fumble is right about one thing though (broken clock etc): I do fear Corbyn. I don't remotely expect him to win a GE or to ever become PM. But the prospect that it could even conceivably happen, is terrifying.

Glad to see you putting your perceived short term interests ahead of the long term welfare of the country. On the one hand you say that a no deal Brexit would be ruinous for the country and, given the EU will probably not want us back, one likely to last for decades. On the other, five years (or less) of Corbyn is somehow worse? Corbyn can be thrown out, whilst the no deal situation will likely never be rescinded.