General Election - December 12th, 2019

[BobKowalski]

I’m not sure who loathe Johnson more. Opposition MPs or Tory ones. This is raw hate.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Perhaps because he is a lying racist twat.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Who knows how any forthcoming GE would pan out, but one of the significant obstacles for Labour is that the Remain vote is inevitably going to heavily split between Labour and the Libdems. There are countless millions of devout Remainers who cannot and will not under any circumstances vote for Jeremy Corbyn, and they will in droves vote Libdem.

On the other hand, Boris has the potential to mop up not only the Tory Brexit supporters, but also some Labour Brexit supporters (those not so entrenched in life-long Labour voting habits that they simply can't/won't vote Tory) and critically, Brexit Party voters as well.

If Boris' message to Brexit Party voters is strong and clear enough, I am wondering if a deal will be done with Farage? If not, then the Tory vote could be split as badly as the Labour vote will be. But it's possible Boris and Farage could do a deal with the Brexit party agreeing not to field many (any?) candidates. No such possibility exists for Labour and the Libdems. So the Labour vote will be split badly, the Tory one may or may not be.

That said, Boris will lose most if not all of his Scottish seats, so that has to be factored in as well.

Hard to know what will happen now. To do a deal with Farage he'll have to promise a No Deal Brexit.
As I stated before, the irony is that if he could somehow get a majority without this promise and he genuinely wants a deal, then there is one very much achievable if he doesn't depend on the DUP to support it.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Reasonable opinion too. The difficulty would be deciding where they wouldn't stand.
It would look bad to not stand in every constituency, and painting it as a sign of being lackey to Farage should be an open goal.

Then it comes down to whether Corbyn is Diana Ross.

Caught in the middle of a chain reaction?

 

[M18CTID]

At no time in my post did I say that JC was involved in the peace process. My point was that you have to sit down and talk at some stage. It is possible, and neither you or I know, that this did in some very small way allow both sides to come together. Like I say maybe it did or maybe it didn't but in the end bridges have to be built.

Your post implied that Corbyn was involved in the peace process and you'd be far from the first to claim that in recent years. If that wasn't your implication then fair enough. I don't see Corbyn as a peace-broker. Never have, never will. If he was, then he'd have been involved in the NI peace process at some point but he was conspicuous by his absence. I see him as someone who supports rebels and terrorists. I wouldn't be surprised if he was cheering like fuck when the IRA bombed the Grand Hotel in Brighton in 1984. Along with John McDonnell.

 

[Cheesy]

I wouldn't be surprised if he was cheering like fuck when the IRA bombed the Grand Hotel in Brighton in 1984. Along with John McDonnell.

As were some posters on here I suspect.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Just found out that the Radcliffe wards I live in have been moved from the very interesting Bury South constituency to be combined with Farnworth. Not even in the same borough. Shite.

Who organised that?

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Caught in the middle of a chain reaction?

Supreme response, sir.

 

[M18CTID]

The Panaroma programme was a hatchet job as has been proven, but still not denying there are issues which need be resolved. I am still waiting for the islamophia in the tory party version, I can't see that happening very soon.

Proven by who? Corbyn? Yet in the the next sentence you admit there is an issue.

And in the interests of balance, I'd be more than happy to see an expose on Islamophobia in the Tory party too

 

[The perfect fumble]

McDonnell pissing on Javid at the minute.