Harry Kane

I don't think anybody is suggesting he wouldn't sign for City if he couldn't have number 10 that would of course be ridiculous. However this has been months in the making, he decided ages ago he wanted City, Villa have just admitted the Grealish deal was done ages ago too as buendia was a replacement and they signed him what seems like a year ago. So they'll have been talks between both going way back and these kind of things do get discussed. The multiple golden boot winning striker and England captain would surely get first dibs at the number 10 over grealish.

It obviously doesn't mean he's definitely not signing, kane may not give a shit about numbers and Grealish desperately wanted it, maybe he does and City simply choose to give it to Grealish or maybe there's any number of reasons for it. none of us know but I don't think its illogical to see it as a potential indication to how things might pan out.

Seems to me like 10 would be reserved for Messi then Kane then Grealish in that order.
 
ninjamonkey said:
I don't think anybody is suggesting he wouldn't sign for City if he couldn't have number 10 that would of course be ridiculous. However this has been months in the making, he decided ages ago he wanted City, Villa have just admitted the Grealish deal was done ages ago too as buendia was a replacement and they signed him what seems like a year ago. So they'll have been talks between both going way back and these kind of things do get discussed. The multiple golden boot winning striker and England captain would surely get first dibs at the number 10 over grealish.

It obviously doesn't mean he's definitely not signing, kane may not give a shit about numbers and Grealish desperately wanted it, maybe he does and City simply choose to give it to Grealish or maybe there's any number of reasons for it. none of us know but I don't think its illogical to see it as a potential indication to how things might pan out.

Seems to me like 10 would be reserved for Messi then Kane then Grealish in that order.
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I don't think number 10 matters for Kane. He's number 9 for England and I assume he has first choice there
 
Kane's not going to risk destroying his reputation at Spurs and go on strike only to back down over a shirt number. We could give him the vacant #1 shirt (if that's allowed) and he'd take it if it meant sealing the transfer.

Besides, if he got that pissy they could change it in the summer next year.

Traditional 1-11 numbers don't seem to matter too much at City anyway, I mean look at the list of players we have outside that range.
 
JPBB said:
I simply do not see the evidence that Levy is a willing seller. He says, for what it is worth, in the press he is not. You claim that Kane will be unhappy if the deal collapses. Maybe? So what? He’ll have to get on with it. If he really wanted to go he would’ve have signed the contract. And the so called gentlemen’s agreement? What evidence is there that it exists? What did it say? The deal is obviously still probable but it feels increasingly flakey.
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You certainly won't find any evidence in my post that Levy is a willing seller because I've never argued that he is. He's certainly said that he doesn't want to sell Kane but that's a statement of a wish, not an inflexible statement of intention. In his interview Levy did not promise Spurs that Kane would not be sold but simply that the decisions taken would be in the best interests of the club. These interests may change in the face of real offers of hard cash. He may be a reluctant seller but he may well come round to seeing a sale as the est and only viable outcome. Your assertion that Kane will "just have to get on with it" sounds good when you're trying to put forward a couldn't care less, tough guy attitude but it's laughable when you're commenting on an area of life where man management and motivation are of crucial importance. It looks very much as though relations between Kane and Levy are as bad as they can get and that Kane most certainly will not "just get on with it." Levy is actually responsible for the day-to-day running of the club and he will be more sensitive to its needs than your rather crude caricature of him suggests. As for the gentleman's agreement, Kane appears convinced that it is real and, again, dismissing it as of no significance is ignoring one of the great causes of hostility and bitterness. Kane's sense of betrayal is a key element in this affair.
 
JPBB said:
I simply do not see the evidence that Levy is a willing seller. He says, for what it is worth, in the press he is not. You claim that Kane will be unhappy if the deal collapses. Maybe? So what? He’ll have to get on with it. If he really wanted to go he would’ve have signed the contract. And the so called gentlemen’s agreement? What evidence is there that it exists? What did it say? The deal is obviously still probable but it feels increasingly flakey.
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Have you noticed the price of fuel has gone up recently, every time you fill your car up is contributing to Harry’s transfer fee :)
 
its-grim-up-north said:
My original point was that I can’t see Kane and Haaland working in a team together amongst all the other talent at Peps disposal without upsetting one of them, they both want to be the main man with a team built around them IMO … it’s not the worst dilemma to have tho I suppose.
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Oy fuckin raggie, get your own fucking monika.
 
Am only guessing here but one or another I reckon Gabba is off , still think Kane will sign weather Gabba is included in that deal I have no idea
 
JPBB said:
I simply do not see the evidence that Levy is a willing seller. He says, for what it is worth, in the press he is not. You claim that Kane will be unhappy if the deal collapses. Maybe? So what? He’ll have to get on with it. If he really wanted to go he would’ve have signed the contract. And the so called gentlemen’s agreement? What evidence is there that it exists? What did it say? The deal is obviously still probable but it feels increasingly flakey.
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So what? Team morale is vital. And the speculation would not go away. There's a very good chance it will destabilise your dressing room. How can Spurs players aspire for the future when the heart of the team wants out? Spurs can hold him to his contract if they want but it will be damaging.

You should do what Villa did and rebuild. Clock is ticking
 
JPBB said:
I simply do not see the evidence that Levy is a willing seller. He says, for what it is worth, in the press he is not. You claim that Kane will be unhappy if the deal collapses. Maybe? So what? He’ll have to get on with it. If he really wanted to go he would’ve have signed the contract. And the so called gentlemen’s agreement? What evidence is there that it exists? What did it say? The deal is obviously still probable but it feels increasingly flakey.
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I think you miss the point of a gentleman’s agreement. If there’s evidence it ceases to be that, surely its a contract? The evidence is Kane, who is universally accepted as a model professional staying away from the club.

Ultimately though, it doesn’t matter. Levy won’t sell as he isn’t a gentleman. Harry knows that now. You are also correct in saying Harry will get on with it. It’ll be like one of those invites you get to a marriage vow renewal. You have to get the suit dry cleaned and go through all the pfaff just to sit in the church and speculate about which one of them had the affair.

If you have a season ticket you can all “get on with it” together. I’m sure it’ll all be fine.
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
As for the gentleman's agreement, Kane appears convinced that it is real and, again, dismissing it as of no significance is ignoring one of the great causes of hostility and bitterness. Kane's sense of betrayal is a key element in this affair.
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I agree and only Kane and Levy know what was said.

There have been signs that an agreemrnt existed though.
It's been reported that Levy persuaded him to stay last summer and then Kane looked in tears at the last game, when he did a lap of honour. He then made a video basically telling everyone he was leaving, only it seems to have the rug pulled out from under him again.

Kane probably thinks that Levy has gone back on his word and can't be trusted and after all that's happened i can see that he'd be well pissed off!
 
There is no evidence that Levy has failed to honour this so called gentleman’s agreement, if it even exists.

I can well imagine Levy agreeing to sell Kane in the event that Spurs were to fall far out of contention for major silverware. But it is a cast iron certainty that any sale would have been conditional on another club paying the asking price. And there is no way that Levy would have been so naive as to put a figure on it. The naivety will have been all Kane’s and his amateur hour bro.
 
JimB said:
There is no evidence that Levy has failed to honour this so called gentleman’s agreement, if it even exists.
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Hmm.
I can well imagine Levy agreeing to sell Kane in the event that Spurs were to fall far out of contention for major silverware. But it is a cast iron certainty that any sale would have been conditional on another club paying the asking price. And there is no way that Levy would have been so naive as to put a figure on it. The naivety will have been all Kane’s and his amateur hour bro.
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There's.... absolutely not a shred of evidence for that either. You've just made it all up.
 
JimB said:
There is no evidence that Levy has failed to honour this so called gentleman’s agreement, if it even exists.

I can well imagine Levy agreeing to sell Kane in the event that Spurs were to fall far out of contention for major silverware. But it is a cast iron certainty that any sale would have been conditional on another club paying the asking price. And there is no way that Levy would have been so naive as to put a figure on it. The naivety will have been all Kane’s and his amateur hour bro.
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Fuck me! Do you lot know what a gentleman’s agreement is?

A gentlemen's agreement, or gentleman's agreement, is an informal and legally non-binding agreement between two or more parties. It is typically oral, but it may be written or simply understood as part of an unspoken agreement by convention or through mutually-beneficial etiquette. The essence of a gentlemen's agreement is that it relies upon the honor of the parties for its fulfillment, rather than being in any way enforceable. It is distinct from a legal agreement or contract.

Now stop banging on about evidence of a gentleman’s agreement you thick fuckers!
 
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