How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

[halfmist]

No. You were paying for the pensions then. There's no national pension pot.

It's the success of the welfare state. Pensions calculated on life expectancy, but taking old people out of poverty means they live longer, until there are more retired people than workers to pay the pension. Then young people can't afford (or don't want) children and, without immigration, population declines and there are even fewer workers to pay your pension.

Likewise, why is the NHS in trouble? Because people live so long. Why are people living longer? Because of the NHS. The

Nope that’s technically not true what you are saying.I will be paid out, when I get there,on the basis of my contributions in.So there is a pensions pot for me. I paid the money in over the years so thats why the Government will pay me out. The fact it will be paid from current taxation is irrelevant.

 

[DrBlueBob]

Myth. A city does not need a cathedral to be considered a city.

Thanks for the correction.

 

[mexico1970]

You see that’s the whole problem. If the English show any sort of Nationalism or stand up for our Country we get labelled little Englanders. Yet when the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish do the same it’s a different story. They get the label Patriots. Crazy.

The poster in question seems to forget that they have already had a referendum and they voted to stay, plus what is he banging on about Brexit for when he would want a vote to leave the union even if we were part of the EU or not.

You're more than likely right on this count, the mere mention of roast beef has some people running for the swear jar.

 

[DontLookBackInAnger]

Q. If Scotland do get independence and join the EU, would that give the rest of the UK another headache with another border to cross?

The real issue in Northern Ireland is that the Good Friday agreement was written in such a way that it assumed continued membership within the EU and pretty much anything that's suggested to solve the problem now would break that agreement. If Scotland did leave the UK, there is no similer direct issue and the solution is pretty simple(assuming they are allowed to rejoin the EU)you simply have a hard border between the UK and Scotland(although ironically that might cause another issue in connection to the Good Friday agreement with direct trade from NI to Scotland!)

 

[Vic]

Correct. Labour will kick it well in to the long grass after the Get Brexit Done winner at the last election. Their core vote love any labour shortages as it will increase their wages and their rights. No Johnny Foreigner undercutting them anymore.

Well, Labour could say "As Johnson and Gove promised, Labour will be in favour of being in a free trade zone from Iceland to the Russian border".

 

[Vic]

Nope that’s technically not true what you are saying.I will be paid out, when I get there,on the basis of my contributions in.So there is a pensions pot for me. I paid the money in over the years so thats why the Government will pay me out. The fact it will be paid from current taxation is irrelevant.

You have no legal entitlement to any pension. It's legislated for but could be legislated against.

You got your pension at 65, I assume. Others are waiting, paying more tax to fund yours.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Thanks for the correction.

But what about the cheese !!??

 

[bluethrunthru]

You have no legal entitlement to any pension. It's legislated for but could be legislated against.

You got your pension at 65, I assume. Others are waiting, paying more tax to fund yours.

My landing date for the state pension is 67

 

[bluethrunthru]

Correct. Labour will kick it well in to the long grass after the Get Brexit Done winner at the last election. Their core vote love any labour shortages as it will increase their wages and their rights. No Johnny Foreigner undercutting them anymore.

The mythical Johnny Foreigner undercutting them was never there - keeping the minimum wage at a low level kept wages low and moved the responsibility for peoples survival onto the tax payer by means on in work benefits and foodbanks. And wages are not getting better.

Rising prices see regular pay drop at fastest rate in a decade

Pay excluding bonuses is failing to keep up with the rising cost of living, official statistics show.

www.bbc.co.uk

As for rights post Brexit the Govt is taking advantage of the post Brexit time to destroy peoples rights - they are looking to reduce H&S conditions with ridiculous proposals and unions are under more attack than ever before.

 

[Gabriel]

My landing date for the state pension is 67

You might want to add 'currently' to that...