How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

Alan Harper's Tash said:
It needs to be renamed The Bigga Picture.
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False advertising.

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meltonblue said:
I don’t even think the loss of trade has been the most damaging aspect of it, it’s what it’s done domestically that’s far worse and will take even longer to undo.

We’re about to be on our fourth PM in just over six years despite having the same party running the government the entire time. That statement on its own shows how damaging it’s been, let alone the erosion on our civic liberties or the undermining of the rule of law we’ve allowed them to do as the key supporters have been allowed to take control across the board.

Brexit is not a policy, it never really has been. It’s an ideology that has enabled some of the very worst elements in our political elite to unleash policies that threaten the very core of what I would have thought would have made people proud of being British in the first place.

The issue is it’s so deep rooted as an ideology (just listen to some of the leadership debates as an example) that we’re nowhere near finished with the damage it’s going to cause, let alone on the road to any form of recovery.

The thing that still sticks in my mind is Goves statement of people “having had enough of experts”. We’re still in the world where a vast number of people listen to politicians and journalists more than they do experts or academics and I do worry just how bad the damage has to be before that changes.
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great post
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Don’t think so. The beginning = creation of the problem. Middle = acknowledgement of problem and formulation of solutions. End = implementation of solutions. Hence ‘we are not even at the end of the beginning’.
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What I’m saying is we won’t even get to parts 2 and 3.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
What I’m saying is we won’t even get to parts 2 and 3.
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The issue is really that Brexit promised to transport the UK to the days pre-joining the EEC - @ 1974. Politically, trade wise lock stock and barrel. The lies revolved around the way that possibility was presented by the Leave side and the bit that your ardent Brexiteer didn't buy - and many still don't - I mean there are literally countries that exist now that were not countries then - the Berlin Wall came down - and what we seemed to believe that in actual fact the world of 1974 was out there just waiting for us to emerge so they could welcome us to the top table. Sorry folks but we can change but was can't make the rest of the world change too just because that suits us.
 
bluethrunthru said:
The issue is really that Brexit promised to transport the UK to the days pre-joining the EEC - @ 1974. Politically, trade wise lock stock and barrel. The lies revolved around the way that possibility was presented by the Leave side and the bit that your ardent Brexiteer didn't buy - and many still don't - I mean there are literally countries that exist now that were not countries then - the Berlin Wall came down - and what we seemed to believe that in actual fact the world of 1974 was out there just waiting for us to emerge so they could welcome us to the top table. Sorry folks but we can change but was can't make the rest of the world change too just because that suits us.
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This was another thing that got on my tits around the time of the referendum. Cunts moaning that ‘this isn’t what we voted to join in 1973’. Of course it isn’t you fucking moron, that was 43 fucking years ago. Name me one thing that hasn’t changed hugely since then.

Apart from our wanky electoral system, I suppose.
 
bluethrunthru said:
The issue is really that Brexit promised to transport the UK to the days pre-joining the EEC - @ 1974. Politically, trade wise lock stock and barrel. The lies revolved around the way that possibility was presented by the Leave side and the bit that your ardent Brexiteer didn't buy - and many still don't - I mean there are literally countries that exist now that were not countries then - the Berlin Wall came down - and what we seemed to believe that in actual fact the world of 1974 was out there just waiting for us to emerge so they could welcome us to the top table. Sorry folks but we can change but was can't make the rest of the world change too just because that suits us.
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I was wondering what was in it for those rich people/corporations who wanted it and soon realised that it was to demolish our policies and open it up to worldwide looting of what we have left.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
This was another thing that got on my tits around the time of the referendum. Cunts moaning that ‘this isn’t what we voted to join in 1973’. Of course it isn’t you fucking moron, that was 43 fucking years ago. Name me one thing that hasn’t changed hugely since then.

Apart from our wanky electoral system, I suppose.
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What got on my tits is that none of them had any thought for the next generations, it was all about ‘We were better off before’, even though they weren’t alive then.

Crazies, I tell ya!
 
bluethrunthru said:
Music? Nope thought not -

news.sky.com

'Every barrier in the world went up overnight': Some bands are skipping the UK because of Brexit

After years of cancellations thanks to COVID, this summer sees the return of music festivals to the UK - but after leaving the EU, those involved with British events are facing challenges and calling for support.
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As has been mentioned on here countless times, UK Music is one of our great exports. We've excelled in popular music for a very, very long time (hand in hand with the US) and even this gets a blocker on it (just when bands can't really make money from selling records anymore).

When I read this story I keep seeing Roger Daltrey's petulant rant with his 'noncey band'....
 
somapop said:
As has been mentioned on here countless times, UK Music is one of our great exports. We've excelled in popular music for a very, very long time (hand in hand with the US) and even this gets a blocker on it (just when bands can't really make money from selling records anymore).

When I read this story I keep seeing Roger Daltrey's petulant rant with his 'noncey band'....
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Ah yes the famous "Daltrey Defence" - an idea postulated by a man who presumably thinks a brown paper bag is a suitable receptacle to transport liquids in..............
 
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