i want de jong out of the team

[Breadsnapper]

Some people are just on day release from the local asylum.

 

[yozzer]

Gareth Barry breaks up play better than De Jong so what is the point in him:



Tackles won
Barry: 91
De Jong: 69

Tackles Lost
Barry: 22
De Jong: 27

Fouls Conceded
Barry: 64
De Jong: 44

Yellow Cards
Barry: 4
De Jong: 7

These last two stats, show that Barry is clearly the far more canny footballer, as he breaks up play (concedes a foul) far more ofter than De Jong but also far more subtly so he doesn't receive a yellow card.

Fouls Won
Barry: 56
De Jong: 44

You can not argue with these stats, they clearly show Gareth Barry is far better at breaking up the play than NDJ. And with that being true, in what way is NDJ better than Barry?? None whatsoever

(Stats from last season's PL)

the proof is in the pudding as they say ...ty sir i took some stick for my post ..but thanks alot dude

 

[mcfc1632]

why ??


I could have swore we won !!

-- Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:46 pm --



But we won ffs... and weve now played 2 away from home and not conceeded.

wtf is the problem with some on here.??

We have midfielders who can play football, why waste a man by playing the immobile stump!

-- Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:02 pm --

Re your response to my point - Sorry - this only reafirms my view - if you think that de jong is anything less than vital in every one of the tough games that we will play this season - you actually are just pig ignorant about moden foorball (don't worry lots of fans of various clubs are - and loads of journos) - as I said - it does not make you a bad peron - just one that knows fuck all about modern football - relax - thankfully our manager does - so just enjoy that

The dim are often deluded to the extent that they think they are so right when in reality they are as wrong as wrong can be!

-- Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:03 pm --

De Jong is a beast. End of.

Stick him in the fucking Zoo then!

only shows therefore that you must simply have no understanding about football - sorry - your comments are drivel

 

[Tevez City]

I like him but he will not be a starter if I were the coach . Look at Tottenham , they bossed the game with only one defensive midfielder ( Tom Huddlestone ) while we were playing with 3 defensive midfielders !

 

[Damocles]

As the old saying goes, "There are lies, damn lies and statistics."

I do not see though how these stats can be construed in any other way, the only other things I can think that could affect Nigel's ability are Interceptions and Distance Covered, unfortunately there are no stats available for these things. However on bith accounts I think GB would come out on top.

Simply because the statistics do not provide any sort of regression; that is, their importance to the game isn't listed in any way. I would bet a small fortune that De Jong's tackles were far more important/broke down the opposition more than Barry's did.

 

[BlueTony]

For all the NDJ haters on this thread did any of you go the any of the preseason games or watch them or have seen any games this season?

NDJ is a professional and does the job he has been told to ( unlike some other palyers I could mention who spit their dummies out if they cannot do what they want to { tin hat on }) He is getting forward a lot more with Yaya in the team beacuse he knows he has cover.

Just like Micah and Boateng switched against Valencia we look like, if Mancini has his way, we are going to try and play total football.

I would much rather have NDj at the back of the midfield than GB who is too slow and won't offer the same cover.

 

[mcfc1632]

Re your response to my point - Sorry - this only reafirms my view - if you think that de jong is anything less than vital in every one of the tough games that we will play this season - you actually are just pig ignorant about moden foorball (don't worry lots of fans of various clubs are - and loads of journos) - as I said - it does not make you a bad peron - just one that knows fuck all about modern football - relax - thankfully our manager does - so just enjoy that

I am prepared to guarantee you that Mancini will chose Barry over De Jong

It is amazing that any team wins anything without de Jong in their team, as he is so abosultely essential. Not one big team in the world has a player so one dimensional as De Jong and yet is not even that great at breaking up play.

Really? thanks - so in front of the Bluemoon community I will take that on board and (allowing for some calculations for injuries) I will have a pint with you for every game difference that they play - is that agreed?

 

[vamps]

NDJ didn't do THAT bad during the world cup... I rest my case.

 

[Neil McNab]

I think we're playing so negatively that some are falling asleep during games and having a dream where De Jong plays good football, the only explanation I can think of!<br /><br />-- Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:51 pm --<br /><br />

NDJ didn't do THAT bad during the world cup... I rest my case.

The team in which he played did OK, I didn't see him pulling up any trees, embarrassed his nation with his Kung Fu fuck buddy Van Bumell!

 

[Sabster]

I am prepared to guarantee you that Mancini will chose Barry over De Jong

It is amazing that any team wins anything without de Jong in their team, as he is so abosultely essential. Not one big team in the world has a player so one dimensional as De Jong and yet is not even that great at breaking up play.

Really? thanks - so in front of the Bluemoon community I will take that on board and (allowing for some calculations for injuries) I will have a pint with you for every game difference that they play - is that agreed?

Yes<br /><br />-- Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:31 pm --<br /><br />

I do not see though how these stats can be construed in any other way, the only other things I can think that could affect Nigel's ability are Interceptions and Distance Covered, unfortunately there are no stats available for these things. However on bith accounts I think GB would come out on top.

Simply because the statistics do not provide any sort of regression; that is, their importance to the game isn't listed in any way. I would bet a small fortune that De Jong's tackles were far more important/broke down the opposition more than Barry's did.

As in injuring the opposition, like he did to that American guy?