Ireland Leaving - Absolute Disaster

Didsbury Dave said:
SWP's back said:
Which lot want him out of the door? You show me 6 posts in 40 pages then that say people want rid of him? I cannot remember one.

Stop inflaming the thread just to keep it going.

You appear very keen to have an argument with me, my friend...


Not at all, I even remember posting once that I agreed more and more with what you put in each post a few weeks back.

I just find that today, you have been specifically looking to be argumentative. You keep dismissing other peoples views and trying to blame our manager for forcing out on the our favourite players (despite the team averaging 2 pts a game so far under him - which isn't bad in a new league etc).

You do not answer posters who make genuine points and you rubbish what anyone else says as you are ITK on this (I would assume).

Even the comment of yours that I am replying to completely ignores the point of my previous post. It is like arguing with a woman who keeps changing the focus of the argument.
 
He'd probably be better off going to United actually, as much as it pains me to say it.

Ferguson has a history of managing problem players, and getting the best out of them, he'd fit better into their system. A ready made replacement for Scholes. Fucking hell anyway.

We're just going to throw money at it until something sticks.

It's up to Mancini to manage his players. Hopefully he can manage to get a player of Stevies potential , happy and playing, like Hughes did for 12 months
 
bluefandk said:
dw7 said:
at the moment unied have a better chance han ciy at winning suff unil fergie fucks off anyway

Two years from now, my personel opinoin is that we will have overtaken them, but time will tell.

In what ? net spend ?

I am gearing up for him leaving, will be a sad, sad day when he does but all things eventually come to an end.
 
I thought the reason for him leaving was because he wanted to play and not to do with winning trophies, would he get into the united, arsenal or liverpool team at the moment?

We will be in a position where we will have a lot more games next year, plenty of opportunity to get himself back into form and make himself undroppable.
 
heatonmoorblue said:
I thought the reason for him leaving was because he wanted to play and not to do with winning trophies, would he get into the united, arsenal or liverpool team at the moment?

We will be in a position where we will have a lot more games next year, plenty of opportunity to get himself back into form and make himself undroppable.


united yes
arsenal no
liverpool yes
chelsea yes
 
He hasn't improved on last season and that is what has let down coming to the end of this season. W've made enough excuses for him this season: he's playing in the wrong position, he's not being played far forward enough, Robinho isn't there to link up with him, he's ill, he's low on confidence. The problem with Ireland is that his peak was last season and the decline has been an almighty steep one. It will be a shame to see him go, but based on this season, he isn't the player we need hanging around when we're trying for the top 4 and to win the league, when we have better players being kept out of the team by him.
 
bluefandk said:
dw7 said:
at the moment unied have a better chance han ciy at winning suff unil fergie fucks off anyway

Two years from now, my personel opinoin is that we will have overtaken them, but time will tell.

No, thats impossible. The only time we will have overtaken them, (think of what that word means), is when we win god knows whatever it is they have won since 1992. Until then all we can do is try to compete with them. As it stands united have not officially overtaken Liverpool as yet, league championship-wise anyway, however that looks like it will change cum May, a project which has taken Taggart 20 odd years to achieve. For us to overtake united they have to go to the depths of the 3rd tier, we have to win all the trophies they win, and better it. The truth is that in our lifetime we will not overtake them, but we can and perhaps will compete with them. You think how long it has taken the dippers to be looked upon as they are today from when they were winning everything. United will never have that demise because the success they have had means they will always win things in future, just like Barca and Real will never really fall from grace in Spain. Yes they might have the odd off couple of seasons and perhaps the odd trophyless one too, but they will never go on a total barron spell which will culminate in them becoming an ordinary club. Competing with united is what we can do, and I think we will soon see a situation where the PL, FA, LC will be fought for between us and united, AND the European cups will be fought for between Barca/Real from Spain, the usual suspects from italy and France and united and City from England. Chelsea's time will soon run out cos they simply don't have the prestige and history that united now have to carry the momentum onwards, just like Blackburns short time ended the way it did in the mid 90's. I reckon by 2016/2017, Chelsea will be another average Joe. Thats what sustained success gets you see, and that is why united will never be overtaken by anyone for many many years but our wealth and vision of the owners suggest we will be competing with them, hopefully more than Chelsea have this last 10 years or so.
 
I can't say this story is bullshit as I posted the below last friday... so it must have a bit of truth in it....

levets
Post subject: Re: Another big clearout ahead this summer!Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:38 am


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blue_soundwave wrote:
There won't be a mass clearout, a couple of fringe players will move on and that's it. We've got the nucleus of a very good squad.


I have heard from a reliable source (GC via someone else, remaining nameless) that there will be a 'clear out' this summer and there will be a few shocks and some fans will definitely be unhappy. Of course no names mentioned, but shouldn't be hard to work out who...



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