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Ireland Leaving - Absolute Disaster
- Thread starter Didsbury Dave
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ElanJo
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Re: Ireland Leaving - Absolutely Disaster
How?
dw7 said:ElanJo said:I don't buy this "they've struggled due to having better players around them" cliche.
Ireland has struggled because we signed Tevez and changed formation. His confidence obviously waned by not performing as well in a deeper position. I also think that Ireland suffered from Robinho being injured and coming back under par. They had a great understanding and if you look at both of their highlights from last season almost all of their good play involved working off each other.
Robinho started off the season ok then got injured, came back unfit, couldn't adapt to playing with 2 men upfront, suffered a loss in confidence and became unhappy. Also Bellamy was on fire and far more suited to the left midifeld role than Robinho.
The only way I can see either (or both) Robinho or Ireland playing well for us to play with only 1 up front. They are probably the least adaptable players we've had since Ali.
SWP wasted 2-3 years of his career at Chelsea so I'm not surprised he hasn't made any progress since he left us (he's gone backwards if anything) Jose also turned him into a more negative player, looking to pass it sideways instead of running at his fullback.
you contradicted yourself in the first 2 lines of your post
How?
MCFC BOB
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Who says they aren't basing it on last season? I'm basing it on this season.heatonmoorblue said:MCfcBOB said:He hasn't improved on last season and that is what has let down coming to the end of this season. W've made enough excuses for him this season: he's playing in the wrong position, he's not being played far forward enough, Robinho isn't there to link up with him, he's ill, he's low on confidence. The problem with Ireland is that his peak was last season and the decline has been an almighty steep one. It will be a shame to see him go, but based on this season, he isn't the player we need hanging around when we're trying for the top 4 and to win the league, when we have better players being kept out of the team by him.
Haha, so he peaked at the age of 22 and is in decline, explains why 3 of our rivals for the top 4 and winning the league want him 'hanging around' their squads.
Answer me this: why has Barry consitently kept his place despite playing shit for long periods and at times contributing fuck all to the team but Ireland has barely had a chance in comparison?
People talk about form and 'grabbing' chances but to be honest Barry has managed to somehow keep his place when he hasn't warranted it. I will say that Barry's form has picked up over the last few weeks after a poor winter and at the moment he is deserving of his place but for months he didn't deserve it.
People talk about form and 'grabbing' chances but to be honest Barry has managed to somehow keep his place when he hasn't warranted it. I will say that Barry's form has picked up over the last few weeks after a poor winter and at the moment he is deserving of his place but for months he didn't deserve it.
MCFC BOB
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Re: Ireland Leaving - Absolutely Disaster
You said that you don't believe that players don't play well with better players around them, and you went on to say that Ireland hasn't been playing well because of Tevez.ElanJo said:dw7 said:you contradicted yourself in the first 2 lines of your post
How?
Tricky_Trev
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Re: Ireland Leaving - Absolutely Disaster
But i think he was referring to the change of tactics following the arrival of Tevez affecting Ireland, as opposed to the mere presence of better players. I think.MCfcBOB said:You said that you don't believe that players don't play well with better players around them, and you went on to say that Ireland hasn't been playing well because of Tevez.ElanJo said:How?
ElanJo
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Re: Ireland Leaving - Absolutely Disaster
I think I made it pretty clear that Irleand suffered because he was moved into a deeper position due to the signing of Tevez. That does not contradict what I was saying.
MCfcBOB said:You said that you don't believe that players don't play well with better players around them, and you went on to say that Ireland hasn't been playing well because of Tevez.ElanJo said:How?
I think I made it pretty clear that Irleand suffered because he was moved into a deeper position due to the signing of Tevez. That does not contradict what I was saying.
Carl_Man_City
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masterwig said:Answer me this: why has Barry consitently kept his place despite playing shit for long periods and at times contributing fuck all to the team but Ireland has barely had a chance in comparison?
People talk about form and 'grabbing' chances but to be honest Barry has managed to somehow keep his place when he hasn't warranted it. I will say that Barry's form has picked up over the last few weeks after a poor winter and at the moment he is deserving of his place but for months he didn't deserve it.
Just because he doesn't score every other game doesn't mean he contributes fuck all
TheMightyQuinn
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It's a tough one to call really.
It all depends on how the summers transfers go.
If we bring in 3 or 4 big names and lose Ireland then most will be happy enough although slightly sad to see Ireland leave.
If we buy no one of any experience and lose Ireland there will be uproar.
If Ireland is just 1 of 2 or 3 big name players who leaves then people may start to melt.
Who knows.
It all depends on how the summers transfers go.
If we bring in 3 or 4 big names and lose Ireland then most will be happy enough although slightly sad to see Ireland leave.
If we buy no one of any experience and lose Ireland there will be uproar.
If Ireland is just 1 of 2 or 3 big name players who leaves then people may start to melt.
Who knows.
Now that this thread finally seems to be drawing to a close.
Can I suggest we just ignore Didsbury Dave and de Niro's attempts to slag off the manager through sly posts like these.
City under Mancini are quite visibly a much better team than they were with Hughes. We have just had a remarkable 7 points from three away games. So unable to slag RM off directly we get this post about how Ireland wants to leave because he is not appreciated by said RM.
SI is rightly a popular player and the majority do not want him to leave. However we also recognize he isn´t the best player at our club and therefore will just have to work hard to get a game. That´s life.
Can I suggest we just ignore Didsbury Dave and de Niro's attempts to slag off the manager through sly posts like these.
City under Mancini are quite visibly a much better team than they were with Hughes. We have just had a remarkable 7 points from three away games. So unable to slag RM off directly we get this post about how Ireland wants to leave because he is not appreciated by said RM.
SI is rightly a popular player and the majority do not want him to leave. However we also recognize he isn´t the best player at our club and therefore will just have to work hard to get a game. That´s life.