wrenie72 said:It's all simple really, there is no room for sentiment if you want to win things. The Manager works with the players every day and either see's a problem or does not rate Ireland. Stevie has had 1 good season and has been very well rewarded for that.
If he can not now get himself together then it's time to move on! I have been watching City for 35 years and we have never had a better oportunity to be a major force in World Football.... Goodbye Stevie "One Season Wonder" Ireland. C.T.I.D
simon23 said:wrenie72 said:It's all simple really, there is no room for sentiment if you want to win things. The Manager works with the players every day and either see's a problem or does not rate Ireland. Stevie has had 1 good season and has been very well rewarded for that.
If he can not now get himself together then it's time to move on! I have been watching City for 35 years and we have never had a better oportunity to be a major force in World Football.... Goodbye Stevie "One Season Wonder" Ireland. C.T.I.D
it has nothing to do with sentiment
it has everythignt o do with being able to see the talent this lad has and being able to get the best out of him (by any means)......Ireland when played in his best position is a force to be reckoned with (ie just behind the main striker)....RM at present isnt playing this way....now with his own team of players it will be very interesting to see how RM does set up....will it be a 4-4-2 where there is no room for Ireland unless he adapts his game or will it be (as some people have suggested on here a while back) that he has a favoured 4-2-3-1 approach or even a 4-3-3 approach...both of which ireland i think can fit into.
Im not disagreeing irelands form dipped this season (due to whatever resasons and the change of manager certainly was one of them...but there are others)......However Ireland can be top class and if nurtured the right way could be a huge player for us
I just hope that RM can see what a lot of city fans can see and doesnt get rid of him.......
simon23 said:it has everythignt o do with being able to see the talent this lad has and being able to get the best out of him (by any means)......Ireland when played in his best position is a force to be reckoned with (ie just behind the main striker)....
Ferguson obviously hasn't got a clue!!! He's only won every fucking trophy going.redmizzle said:and berbatov? guess it doesnt suit your argumentsupercity36 said:obertan? hes a youngster so no way of knowing if he'll make it. as for the rest, not even the best of managers could of got much more out of those players. lets face it, they arent exactly ripping up trees. verons back in argentina, klebersons in brazil, djemba djemba was in denmark last i heard
Joycee Banercheck said:Ferguson obviously hasn't got a clue!!! He's only won every fucking trophy going.redmizzle said:and berbatov? guess it doesnt suit your argument
Well no he doesn't. But he doesn't cop for any shit either (Stam, BentboyBeckham). Who has a 100% success rate in the transfer market though?BoyBlue_1985 said:Joycee Banercheck said:Ferguson obviously hasn't got a clue!!! He's only won every fucking trophy going.
Not arguing he a good manager thats just blatently obvious. Arguing the fact that ferguson makes every player the greatest thing ever.
I suspect Mancini knows of SI's talent and ability, the way he challenged him to 'sort his head out' suggests he would like him back at his best. If the recent reports of Ireland wanting out are true, and I've noticed no denials from his mates on here, then I'm a bit disappointed in Stevie for choosing to walk away rather than fight for his place.simon23 said:wrenie72 said:It's all simple really, there is no room for sentiment if you want to win things. The Manager works with the players every day and either see's a problem or does not rate Ireland. Stevie has had 1 good season and has been very well rewarded for that.
If he can not now get himself together then it's time to move on! I have been watching City for 35 years and we have never had a better oportunity to be a major force in World Football.... Goodbye Stevie "One Season Wonder" Ireland. C.T.I.D
it has nothing to do with sentiment
it has everythignt o do with being able to see the talent this lad has and being able to get the best out of him (by any means)......Ireland when played in his best position is a force to be reckoned with (ie just behind the main striker)....RM at present isnt playing this way....now with his own team of players it will be very interesting to see how RM does set up....will it be a 4-4-2 where there is no room for Ireland unless he adapts his game or will it be (as some people have suggested on here a while back) that he has a favoured 4-2-3-1 approach or even a 4-3-3 approach...both of which ireland i think can fit into.
Im not disagreeing irelands form dipped this season (due to whatever resasons and the change of manager certainly was one of them...but there are others)......However Ireland can be top class and if nurtured the right way could be a huge player for us
I just hope that RM can see what a lot of city fans can see and doesnt get rid of him.......
Joycee Banercheck said:Well no he doesn't. But he doesn't cop for any shit either (Stam, BentboyBeckham). Who has a 100% success rate in the transfer market though?BoyBlue_1985 said:Not arguing he a good manager thats just blatently obvious. Arguing the fact that ferguson makes every player the greatest thing ever.