Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the club

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Tony101 said:
GaudinoMotors said:
Wanting Mancini out now is just a disgusting act of betrayal.
It is, but for me for Micah to say we dont like to play with 3 at the back and the manager does looks very bad. End of the day no matter how good a manager is, if he loses his players, he either has to go or you get rid of the players. history show us its the manager that always goes for obvious reasons. Right now is not time to get rid of him, but right now is the time to pay more attention to the players work. If the team fails to go out of the group and slips in the league with abject performances like today. The question will become vaild. Its the managers job to motivate players and get the best of them


It does look bad - but for Micah only. Last time I looked he was a player employed by the club to do what he was told and with the supposed ability to be able to do it.
I wouldn't get hung up on the Micah interview thing though - nice lad but he's not exactly Henry Kissinger !
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

shootmeifipost10k said:
I have a sneaky feeling the same people wanting Mancini gone would be doing just the same if we got Mourhino in and the season started the same as it has for him a Real Madrid.

Sat 4th in the league 8 points behind the leaders and just lost away in CL, there would be a thread saying is it time for a change.
No way, "Mou" guarantees success in Europe, don't you know.. he guarantees it.
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

ManCitizens. said:
Blue Heaven said:
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ManCitizens. said:
Basic Spanish and i'd like to think a decent standard of french but i'd probably be misinterpreted as you have here.

Forgetting the language for a second, you need to change your attitude. We as a club have only just started winning most of the time. For fans that have followed the club for a long period. It's frustrating to see new fans with no affiliation to the club demand results, success and the head of our manager when they would disapear after a couple of barron seasons without giving 2 ships.

You need to stop making false assumptions about other posters and then using those assumptions as the basis for making the ultimate insult - calling someone a "Rag."

What assumptions from that post? Did random Japs follow us 13 years ago demanding a result against Grimsby?

If he's a fan now, the rest doesn't matter. By the way, in case you haven't realized it, we are now one of the best clubs in the world, and have many more fans worldwide than 13 years ago. There is a world outside of Manchester and Grimsby.
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

GaudinoMotors said:
Tony101 said:
GaudinoMotors said:
Wanting Mancini out now is just a disgusting act of betrayal.
It is, but for me for Micah to say we dont like to play with 3 at the back and the manager does looks very bad. End of the day no matter how good a manager is, if he loses his players, he either has to go or you get rid of the players. history show us its the manager that always goes for obvious reasons. Right now is not time to get rid of him, but right now is the time to pay more attention to the players work. If the team fails to go out of the group and slips in the league with abject performances like today. The question will become vaild. Its the managers job to motivate players and get the best of them


It does look bad - but for Micah only. Last time I looked he was a player employed by the club to do what he was told and with the supposed ability to be able to do it.
I wouldn't get hung up on the Micah interview thing though - nice lad but he's not exactly Henry Kissinger !
Agreed
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Barcon said:
Blue Heaven said:
Barcon said:
Go back and read the post, I didn't say anything of the sort. Easy to be a tough guy from your mums box room isn't it? Keep it up.

I will beat your arse, anytime, anywhere.

Send me a p.m mate, I'd love to suck you off. I like it deep deep down in my you-know-what.

You are a disgusting man...
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Blue Heaven said:
ManCitizens. said:
Blue Heaven said:
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

You need to stop making false assumptions about other posters and then using those assumptions as the basis for making the ultimate insult - calling someone a "Rag."

What assumptions from that post? Did random Japs follow us 13 years ago demanding a result against Grimsby?

If he's a fan now, the rest doesn't matter. By the way, in case you haven't realized it, we are now one of the best clubs in the world, and have many more fans worldwide than 13 years ago. There is a world outside of Manchester and Grimsby.

Which is why i said "newer" fans can't come in with the attitude of winning every game or were shit. I welcome all new fans, but only if they adopt the correct attitude. It would be the same if i saw a lad in the pub calling us shit after the draw with Arsenal.
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

ManCitizens. said:
Blue Heaven said:
ManCitizens. said:
What assumptions from that post? Did random Japs follow us 13 years ago demanding a result against Grimsby?

If he's a fan now, the rest doesn't matter. By the way, in case you haven't realized it, we are now one of the best clubs in the world, and have many more fans worldwide than 13 years ago. There is a world outside of Manchester and Grimsby.

Which is why i said "newer" fans can't come in with the attitude of winning every game or were shit.

Come on, neither you nor I give a darn what "newer" fans think...! And what they think does not have an influence on the squad's performance.
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

This what I WANT to happen, but what I THINK will happen.

Assuming the fairly insane miracle required to allow to crawl through doesn't happen. I think Mancini will have to win the Premier league or lose his job.

I think if we'd got through, even to the 2nd round, Mancini could probably have gotten away with coming 2nd or third in the Premier League.and kept his job.

With this, which if we're being honest with ourselves, is an embarrassment, not just going out but doing so in disarray, on top of last year's under-performance as well, I don't know. I think he really has to take this season by the scruff of the neck now.
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Blue Heaven said:
ManCitizens. said:
Blue Heaven said:
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

You need to stop making false assumptions about other posters and then using those assumptions as the basis for making the ultimate insult - calling someone a "Rag."

What assumptions from that post? Did random Japs follow us 13 years ago demanding a result against Grimsby?

If he's a fan now, the rest doesn't matter. By the way, in case you haven't realized it, we are now one of the best clubs in the world, and have many more fans worldwide than 13 years ago. There is a world outside of Manchester and Grimsby.
i do see a lot more of city fans in san francisco nowadays though (i live there now)
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Dethred said:
shootmeifipost10k said:
I have a sneaky feeling the same people wanting Mancini gone would be doing just the same if we got Mourhino in and the season started the same as it has for him a Real Madrid.

Sat 4th in the league 8 points behind the leaders and just lost away in CL, there would be a thread saying is it time for a change.

From where I sit, I don't think I've seen Mourinho fail to bring a club into the final 16 since he took over at Chelsea...

Please do explain Financial Fair Play to us all since every failure in Europe brings us closer to not complying.

Following your explanation, please include under which of the following circumstances we'll be in better financial standing to comply and further our success as a club?

1.) Win the Prem again, and nothing else (maybe the FA cup thrown in there)
2.) Get second in the PL, get to the quarter or semi finals in the Champions league.

The answer is #2. Winning the league every year for the next decade and failing in the group stages of the CL each time will have us out of Europe for failure to balance our books... which will lead to less investment... which will lead to fewer league titles... which will lead to even less investment... you get the point.

But I know that's too complex for apparently every single person in this entire thread.


But finishing second in the league will result in another thread of is it time for the manager to go.

Obviously you already think your thinking is way to complex for us idiots on here so you must be a right clever **** ;0) Must not forget the smiley or you'll think that I think you just sound like a condesedning **** who also thinks he's a clever smart arsed **** ;0) and another smliey.

Do you really not think the subject of FFP and getting through the next stages hasn't been talked about on here before or do you think we are all thick to not even think about it before.

I'm a **** by the way
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

I'm still of the opinion, that Pep Guardiola is the most logical choice, should Mancini get sacked.
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Blue Heaven said:
Barcon said:
Blue Heaven said:
I will beat your arse, anytime, anywhere.

Send me a p.m mate, I'd love to suck you off. I like it deep deep down in my you-know-what.

You are a disgusting man...

Alright, let's have it. Who are you? What was your last user name before you got banned? I bet you'r a ginger aren't you? Or, perhaps a boy named Jooles?
Come on, get it off your chest.
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

ManCitizens. said:
Blue Heaven said:
ManCitizens. said:
What assumptions from that post? Did random Japs follow us 13 years ago demanding a result against Grimsby?

If he's a fan now, the rest doesn't matter. By the way, in case you haven't realized it, we are now one of the best clubs in the world, and have many more fans worldwide than 13 years ago. There is a world outside of Manchester and Grimsby.

Which is why i said "newer" fans can't come in with the attitude of winning every game or were shit. I welcome all new fans, but only if they adopt the correct attitude. It would be the same if i saw a lad in the pub calling us shit after the draw with Arsenal.
i do support the club.
i may have different opinions, but that does not mean my attitude is wrong.
i didn't leave comments here before so you don't know. I've been saying that he needs to go for 2 seasons already.
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Blue Heaven said:
ManCitizens. said:
Blue Heaven said:
If he's a fan now, the rest doesn't matter. By the way, in case you haven't realized it, we are now one of the best clubs in the world, and have many more fans worldwide than 13 years ago. There is a world outside of Manchester and Grimsby.

Which is why i said "newer" fans can't come in with the attitude of winning every game or were shit.

Come on, neither you nor I give a darn what "newer" fans think...! And what they think does not have an influence on the squad's performance.

I did edit this post. The forums purpose isn't to influence our clubs performance but too discuss it. At the same time i will voice my opinion when people slag the club, playing staff or fans off without justification. In this case, the playing staff.

-- Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:02 am --

goshogun52 said:
ManCitizens. said:
Blue Heaven said:
If he's a fan now, the rest doesn't matter. By the way, in case you haven't realized it, we are now one of the best clubs in the world, and have many more fans worldwide than 13 years ago. There is a world outside of Manchester and Grimsby.

Which is why i said "newer" fans can't come in with the attitude of winning every game or were shit. I welcome all new fans, but only if they adopt the correct attitude. It would be the same if i saw a lad in the pub calling us shit after the draw with Arsenal.
i do support the club.
i may have different opinions, but that does not mean my attitude is wrong.
i didn't leave comments here before so you don't know. I've been saying that he needs to go for 2 seasons already.

This is my point, if he went 2 seasons ago we wouldn't be the current holders of the Prem and CS. We also wouldn't have won the FA Cup. Get a grip. An international fan that has been on the forum for 2 years, wanting Mancini out for 2 years.

Please stop digging that hole.
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Blue Heaven said:
I will beat your arse, anytime, anywhere.

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...dick...
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

ManCitizens. said:
Which is why i said "newer" fans can't come in with the attitude of winning every game or were shit. I welcome all new fans, but only if they adopt the correct attitude. It would be the same if i saw a lad in the pub calling us shit after the draw with Arsenal.


How about those of us that look at the situation beyond the typical "its OK, we're better than in 1998" syndrome, and understand that there is a massive investment into the club that got us here....

And that entire investment is predicated on decent runs in the CL year in, year out. The investment model is built on pulling in similar money to that of Madrid, United, Chelsea, Barca, etc. That is not possible if we can't make it out of the group stages, and if we cannot begin to pull in similar money, then there will be two options to comply with Financial Fair Play:

1.) Make drastic changes to secure knockout-stage matches within a year or two.

2.) Stick with the current trajectory and have to stop buying players and even potentially sell players to even stay in Europe.

But none of you have even considered the ramifications of failure. You can't simply put two and two together and see why its such a huge issue that we're going to fail again this year (its going to happen, it just is. We'd have to win every single game from here on out, meaning that there would be a good chance of Madrid dropping out... not going to happen).

Winning the league again this year means jack shit for our future.
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

I've just realised I'm reading posst by mostly fucking idiots and getting dragged into it.

I'm off before someone from the internet offers to comes round and beat me the fuck up as I'm unlike everyone else and on the small side and a bit of a whimp.
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

I'm very critical of Mancini but it would be madness fire him now.
Firing him should come into question only if we dont win any trophies this year. But still the title from last year and his 5 year contract probably gives him one blank year chance.

Also a good indicator is which way he takes the team. CL place, FA-Cup, PL title. What is next? Some CL success should come in the line (not CL trophy but some serious fight for it 1/4 finals, 1/2 finals).
He spent 50m for 4-5 new players what will change from last year.

If he wins the league again he has to stay that is clear.

If he doesnt win it he will probably get one more year to prove himself. Of course Guordiola will want to come back and this Barca guy CEO around I wouldnt cry a lot to get in a new manager. We would improve a lot with Guardiola compared to Mancini.
(But personally I rate Mourinho higher. Klopp is another option for me. But there arent many manager that I would fire Mancini for.)

So we dont win anything this year, no cups, no league, Mancini stays and starts with a third CL fiasco with a third death group.
In CL he is very bad, wouldnt surprise me to go out from a Barca/Bayern, City, Sahtar/Juve/Zenit, Zagreb group.

What a pressure will be on him in the league that year? So huge...

If we win the league we are going exactly the place where Moratti found himself with Mancini league title is OK but what about CL fiasco's?

But it is maybe a way too optimistic thing that we win the league every year but fail in Europe. it was very close last year and we played better football in the first months and had a better defence last year.
Also United improved a lot with RVP, and Chelsea is clearly a factor this year.
 
Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Tony101 said:
GaudinoMotors said:
Wanting Mancini out now is just a disgusting act of betrayal.
It is, but for me for Micah to say we dont like to play with 3 at the back and the manager does looks very bad. End of the day no matter how good a manager is, if he loses his players, he either has to go or you get rid of the players. history show us its the manager that always goes for obvious reasons. Right now is not time to get rid of him, but right now is the time to pay more attention to the players work. If the team fails to go out of the group and slips in the league with abject performances like today. The question will become vaild. Its the managers job to motivate players and get the best of them
"It's a hard system and I think the players prefer a 4-4-2 but he's the manager and we'll do what he says."
Does't sound like he's losing the players, they are professionals.
 

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