Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the club

[mscenterh750]

I agree with you richfan.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

Their is no doubt in my mind that the Manager seems to have created a problem for himself. We had an awful campaign in Europe and we had what most of us consider a very poor Summer in terms of improving on what we had and we still seem to be missing the elusive plan B.

I am not convinced though by any arguement provided by his doubters on here ( who have increased tenfold overnight) that their is a better alternative.
The two names being banded around most frequently are Pep and Jose and both are oustanding Football Managers but they wouldn't be certainties to bring success overnight.

Pep only knows the one Club and is a very inexperienced Manager who was blessed from day one with an exceptional group of players and Jose seems to hit a Wall as he moves into his third Season amongst other, more celebrated issues.
For what Mancini has done with us and with his previous clubs in Italy he certainly should be regarded as being of the same stature. If you read the Forum today you would think we had a former United Player (Bruce,Keane,Robson) in charge.

He hasn't become a bad Manager overnight. Our players - and just look at the spine of the side -; Hart, Vinny,Yaya,Silva, Aguero all would be welcome at any side in the World. They haven't become bad players overnight either.

Hopefully our owners and our new executive team will allow him the time to adress the problems we face and for me that would include another stab at Europe.

This viewpoint by the way is born from a standpoint of Stability and not Sentiment. Let United and Arsenal and Chelsea be disruprted in the search for new Managers not us.

Lets not forget about Pep's record with the Barca B team , he was also brave enough to carry out a massive shake up in Barcelona selling the likes of Etoo , Ronaldinho and Deco (All in one season) and yet he was able to win the title that same season . It was under Pep that messi flourished , It was also under Pep that Busquets got promoted from Barca B and he brought an average pique into the Barcelona team and brought out the best in both of them , Lets also remember that under rijkaard Xavi was rarely used but when Pep came in he brought out the best in Xavi . The fact that he has only coached in one club doesn't make him inexperienced after all Mou started somewhere , same with Bobby . Pep has the tactics and titles to show .

 

[johnny crossan]

You all know its too early for this flapping. Disappointing first half of the season but luckily, this City team are no surrender monkeys. Unlike certain Blue Mooners. Think WBA, Norwich, Wolves, Rag U, Murray Mints and QPR. Six wins needed to win the league. Six victories.

Pam, with the greatest respect, it is my reluctant duty to inform you that Murray Mints are not and never have been black and white and therefore are an inappropriate soubriquet for the Toon. Everton mints on the other hand....

 

[irish1888]

ya looks like he has run outta ideas- and when players are at the edge of the box why wont they cross the ballllllllllll

 

[Wretched Vengeance]

Their is no doubt in my mind that the Manager seems to have created a problem for himself. We had an awful campaign in Europe and we had what most of us consider a very poor Summer in terms of improving on what we had and we still seem to be missing the elusive plan B.

I am not convinced though by any arguement provided by his doubters on here ( who have increased tenfold overnight) that their is a better alternative.
The two names being banded around most frequently are Pep and Jose and both are oustanding Football Managers but they wouldn't be certainties to bring success overnight.

Pep only knows the one Club and is a very inexperienced Manager who was blessed from day one with an exceptional group of players and Jose seems to hit a Wall as he moves into his third Season amongst other, more celebrated issues.
For what Mancini has done with us and with his previous clubs in Italy he certainly should be regarded as being of the same stature. If you read the Forum today you would think we had a former United Player (Bruce,Keane,Robson) in charge.

He hasn't become a bad Manager overnight. Our players - and just look at the spine of the side -; Hart, Vinny,Yaya,Silva, Aguero all would be welcome at any side in the World. They haven't become bad players overnight either.

Hopefully our owners and our new executive team will allow him the time to adress the problems we face and for me that would include another stab at Europe.

This viewpoint by the way is born from a standpoint of Stability and not Sentiment. Let United and Arsenal and Chelsea be disruprted in the search for new Managers not us.

Lets not forget about Pep's record with the Barca B team , he was also brave enough to carry out a massive shake up in Barcelona selling the likes of Etoo , Ronaldinho and Deco (All in one season) and yet he was able to win the title that same season . It was under Pep that messi flourished , It was also under Pep that Busquets got promoted from Barca B and he brought an average pique into the Barcelona team and brought out the best in both of them , Lets also remember that under rijkaard Xavi was rarely used but when Pep came in he brought out the best in Xavi . The fact that he has only coached in one club doesn't make him inexperienced after all Mou started somewhere , same with Bobby . Pep has the tactics and titles to show .

Completely wrong

Xavi in 05/06 played only 16 game due to a knee ligament injury.

The other seasons Rijkaard was there he played:

03/04 36

04/05 36

05/06 injured

07/08 35

 

[MSP]

He doesn't know a shit about it mate, he's just another one - oh, he's from Barcelona, he's a saint.

 

[lancs blue]

While I agree that our owners have been superb overall I'm still puzzled as to why they appeared to be running scared of Platini and FFP in the summer window? At least that's how it seems to have filtered down to the execs like McBeath and Marwood, what else can explain the ludicrous non-event that was City's transfer window until the last few days when everything was conducted in a blind hurry. All this after Mancini had emphasised that he wanted business concluded asap after the start of the window.

That is the root of most of our current problems IMO, plus a few key injuries and a loss of form up front. I would be angry if Mancini was sacked now, he's done more than enough to deserve at least to the end of the season to turn things around.

 

[mscenterh750]

I really want Bob to succeed in Europe, and take us to that next level, but if push came to shove and he was sacked, then it would be Guardiola for me as he would be a much better fit than Mourinho, along with having the Barca links in place and hopefully we would see the youth to 1st team link strengthened more.

 

[MSP]

maybe they're not keen to spend 100/200 millions each summer and use FFP as an excuse to send a message to both manager (current and future ones) as well as to players and agents that they won't be robbed forever.

 

[cleavers]

in reality this club means very little to the manager or the vast majority of the players,they are employees and are being rewarded as such beyond all rationality.

In reality the same could certainly be said for Khaldoon, Begiristain, Soriano and Marwood as well. Whilst they are at the club though I think it means quite a lot to them all for the club to do well. Even Sheik Mansour, apart from that he has a lot of money invested in the club, the club itself means next to f**k all to him, he only found it a few years ago.

The only people that it really means something to, are those of us who go (or not in many cases these days) week in, week out, and invest our hard earned cash in the process, and that is why these arguments get quite fierce.

WE ALL want what is best for the club, we just struggle to agree what that is, but that's nothing new.