Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the club

[r.soleofsalford]

Just had a look then:

Tevez 1 from his last 8
Aguero 1 from his last 8
Dzeko 1 from his last 13
Mario 1 from his last 11

No wonder we played Lescott up front. ;)

my point exactly fans can flap all they want about a new manager but he is not at fault for what is one of the most lethal strike force's in europe not scoring the goals......

nobody can really disagree with them facts moomba you have posted it is by far the manager but our strikers fault that have put us in the position we are in.

we have dominated so many games and all strikers have had so many goal scoring opportunity's yet we seem to have a 188 page thread mostly blaming the manager.

yes mancini has his faults especially when it comes to Europe but at this moment all i see is a world class front line hitting everything but the back of the net!

Of course you can argue with the stats, there is a severe lack of support for our forwards or pace in attack. It's to simplistic to say it's our strikers fault for not scoring, I would argue the manner of play hinders our strikers.

eggsfuckingactly

 

[r.soleofsalford]

poor mancini he must be looking at his front players and wondering what the hell they are doing at the moment not scoring for fun in most games we have played!

Just had a look then:

Tevez 1 from his last 8
Aguero 1 from his last 8
Dzeko 1 from his last 13
Mario 1 from his last 11

No wonder we played Lescott up front. ;)

my point exactly fans can flap all they want about a new manager but he is not at fault for what is one of the most lethal strike force's in europe not scoring the goals......

nobody can really disagree with them facts moomba you have posted it is by far the manager but our strikers fault that have put us in the position we are in.

we have dominated so many games and all strikers have had so many goal scoring opportunity's yet we seem to have a 188 page thread mostly blaming the manager.

yes mancini has his faults especially when it comes to Europe but at this moment all i see is a world class front line hitting everything but the back of the net!

lee i could disagree with you more. its the manager who buys the players to fit the way he wants his team to play. its the manager who decides what system to play.

we have the best team in the league with the best group of strikers and midfield and bob hasnt worked out how to breakdown an 11 man defense. our movement from the defense to the edge of the oppositions box must be the slowest in the prem.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Just had a look then:

Tevez 1 from his last 8
Aguero 1 from his last 8
Dzeko 1 from his last 13
Mario 1 from his last 11

No wonder we played Lescott up front. ;)

my point exactly fans can flap all they want about a new manager but he is not at fault for what is one of the most lethal strike force's in europe not scoring the goals......

nobody can really disagree with them facts moomba you have posted it is by far the manager but our strikers fault that have put us in the position we are in.

we have dominated so many games and all strikers have had so many goal scoring opportunity's yet we seem to have a 188 page thread mostly blaming the manager.

yes mancini has his faults especially when it comes to Europe but at this moment all i see is a world class front line hitting everything but the back of the net!

lee i could disagree with you more. its the manager who buys the players to fit the way he wants his team to play. its the manager who decides what system to play.

we have the best team in the league with the best group of strikers and midfield and bob hasnt worked out how to breakdown an 11 man defense. our movement from the defense to the edge of the oppositions box must be the slowest in the prem.

Our strike force is the envy of the premier league and most of Europe. To blame all four of them for our poor form and results is Alan ball style diversion on a huge scale. The whole blend of the teams we keep putting out is consistently wrong. Tevez and nasri have smothered our killer instinct and our one touch passing game. Our full backs offer us nothing going forward, leaving silva without the options when he is on the ball. The service our forwards are getting does not include crosses from the byline, it is mainly little threaded balls in crowded penalty areas. All of our best players are underperforming consistently. Yes, we are missing chances but there is much more to this than pointing the finger.

We appear totally unable to blend these players into a clinical unit when we meet any kind of resistance.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

Their is no doubt in my mind that the Manager seems to have created a problem for himself. We had an awful campaign in Europe and we had what most of us consider a very poor Summer in terms of improving on what we had and we still seem to be missing the elusive plan B.

I am not convinced though by any arguement provided by his doubters on here ( who have increased tenfold overnight) that their is a better alternative.
The two names being banded around most frequently are Pep and Jose and both are oustanding Football Managers but they wouldn't be certainties to bring success overnight.

Pep only knows the one Club and is a very inexperienced Manager who was blessed from day one with an exceptional group of players and Jose seems to hit a Wall as he moves into his third Season amongst other, more celebrated issues.
For what Mancini has done with us and with his previous clubs in Italy he certainly should be regarded as being of the same stature. If you read the Forum today you would think we had a former United Player (Bruce,Keane,Robson) in charge.

He hasn't become a bad Manager overnight. Our players - and just look at the spine of the side -; Hart, Vinny,Yaya,Silva, Aguero all would be welcome at any side in the World. They haven't become bad players overnight either.

Hopefully our owners and our new executive team will allow him the time to adress the problems we face and for me that would include another stab at Europe.

This viewpoint by the way is born from a standpoint of Stability and not Sentiment. Let United and Arsenal and Chelsea be disruprted in the search for new Managers not us.

Lets not forget about Pep's record with the Barca B team , he was also brave enough to carry out a massive shake up in Barcelona selling the likes of Etoo , Ronaldinho and Deco (All in one season) and yet he was able to win the title that same season . It was under Pep that messi flourished , It was also under Pep that Busquets got promoted from Barca B and he brought an average pique into the Barcelona team and brought out the best in both of them , Lets also remember that under rijkaard Xavi was rarely used but when Pep came in he brought out the best in Xavi . The fact that he has only coached in one club doesn't make him inexperienced after all Mou started somewhere , same with Bobby . Pep has the tactics and titles to show .

Completely wrong

Xavi in 05/06 played only 16 game due to a knee ligament injury.

The other seasons Rijkaard was there he played:

03/04 36

04/05 36

05/06 injured

07/08 35

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Xavi: Four years ago I was Barcelona's cancer; Rijkaard didn't believe in me
The Spanish playmaker has taken a swipe at his former coach, saying that the 49-year-old's methods prevented him from showing his true qualities

Spain international Xavi has slammed former Barcelona coach Frank Rijkaard, saying that the Dutchman had an excessive physical approach to the game.

Rijkaard took charge of the Catalan giants between 2003 and 2008, leading the club to two La Liga titles and one Champions League crown, among other trophies.

Xavi believes that the 49-year-old gave more importance to physique than to talent, which made him grow unhappy in the squad.

"Rijkaard did not believe in me," he told L'Equipe. "He wanted our game to be based on a superior physical level."

"He believed that it was the only way to be at the same level as the top clubs in Europe.

"Four or five years ago, I was [deemed] terrible and useless. I was Barca's cancer! A player 1,70m tall was simply impossible."

 

[kun1]

sergio, carlos, edin and mario are all great strikers. there is something wrong for their lack of goals and for me it surely isn't their fault. we have a very slow build up except from some 20-25 minutes like newcastle away and some other games. our tempo of the game is really slow and that is everytime the manager's fault. some may say we have the possesion, but that says nothing as long as we don't create chances. most of the times we don't, at sunderland we created a few but they had mignolet in a great day, world class goalkeeping from him that day. my point is it can't be a coincidence that all of our strikers don't score at the moment. i thank mancini for everything he gave us and i'm trully greatfull to him but we must move on. this squad along with 2 very good hungry and young new players with a good manager like guardiola and we would be destroying everyone, it's pretty plainful to me watching us now. i see mancini staying here until the summer and if we don't win anything till then (i mean the league not fa cup) then i think a new manager will come. if mancini with 2 new additions wins us the league again (which i sadly doubt) then i would be happy to be wrong about what i said.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Nobody wants Mancini sacked

Woah... There at least 5 who have posted on this thread that want exactly that!

 

[mancityvstoke]

Nobody wants Mancini sacked

Woah... There at least 5 who have posted on this thread that want exactly that!

It's what the owners might want though?

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

sergio, carlos, edin and mario are all great strikers. there is something wrong for their lack of goals and for me it surely isn't their fault. we have a very slow build up except from some 20-25 minutes like newcastle away and some other games. our tempo of the game is really slow and that is everytime the manager's fault. some may say we have the possesion, but that says nothing as long as we don't create chances. most of the times we don't, at sunderland we created a few but they had mignolet in a great day, world class goalkeeping from him that day. my point is it can't be a coincidence that all of our strikers don't score at the moment. i thank mancini for everything he gave us and i'm trully greatfull to him but we must move on. this squad along with 2 very good hungry and young new players with a good manager like guardiola and we would be destroying everyone, it's pretty plainful to me watching us now. i see mancini staying here until the summer and if we don't win anything till then (i mean the league not fa cup) then i think a new manager will come. if mancini with 2 new additions wins us the league again (which i sadly doubt) then i would be happy to be wrong about what i said.

I'm afraid the FA cup might not be enough this time around . Look at what Chelsea did with RDM.

 

[moomba]

Our strike force is the envy of the premier league and most of Europe. To blame all four of them for our poor form and results is Alan ball style diversion on a huge scale. The whole blend of the teams we keep putting out is consistently wrong. Tevez and nasri have smothered our killer instinct and our one touch passing game. Our full backs offer us nothing going forward, leaving silva without the options when he is on the ball. The service our forwards are getting does not include crosses from the byline, it is mainly little threaded balls in crowded penalty areas. All of our best players are underperforming consistently. Yes, we are missing chances but there is much more to this than pointing the finger.

We appear totally unable to blend these players into a clinical unit when we meet any kind of resistance.

I wouldn't blame the forwards entirely for our current form, but to absolve them of any blame to me seems to me to be ignoring reality.

Mainly little threaded balls in crowded penalty areas got us a lot of goals last season, but not so many this season. Undoubtedly all of our forwards are down on form, and have been so for some time. This is affecting the results of the team.

It's not all their fault, no-one is suggesting it is. But they all need to improve.

 

[bapi]

Platt also said if Sunderland game was replayed they'd win '9 out of 10 times'.

And because of these comments we look like complete losers. And Balotelli is still ill.