Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs
Dear child, if all it took to lose a match of football 3-1 playing a group of superstars against an academy team, was losing possession a few times (a third of the way up the fucking pitch), and a few missed chances, then every game would end in a loss... for both teams (yes that's impossible, which illustrates the stupidity of your post).
Did you not watch the fucking match? The first goal went in because Clichy was caught trying to defend a cross and the player it was sent to (who also scored). Mancini doesn't get paid to prance around the bloody technical area shouting random poems, he is paid to see the threat coming (and it was mentioned before the 40th minute). All Mancini had to do was hold his defensive midfielders behind their attacking midfield and there would have been no confusion by Clichy.
Second goal was 100% down to zonal marking in the box. They were clearly setup in a half-diamond with no one instructed to cover the posts. The same fucking thing allowed Skrtel to score on us at Liverpool. Had they man-marked and had someone on each post, if Lescott would have been beaten (unlikely if he was able to get a spring), then Clichy would have cleared it from the post. It was no accident, that defensive mistake, that was a blatant strategic decision. Who is ultimately responsible for strategic decisions? Yaya Toure, Barry, Kompany? Pfff. You are clueless.
The Third goal came within a couple minutes of changing to a back three. This decision we all know was a shit decision. If you think it wasn't then why THE FUCK did Mancini immediately change back to a back four after the goal? Our defense was in such tatters that Clichy didn't even know what position he was going to be moving to. No one to blame but Mancini. Or wait, was it Dzeko's fault they switched to a back 3, had no idea what the fuck they were doing, and then let a player get a free shot from the edge of the box??? Give me a fucking break.
I suppose it was just a fluke that Mourinho took Mancini's European flops and won the CL with them after two years? Its pretty clear that Mancini knows how to build a team, its even more clear that once he's assembled it, he knows how to manage it in the domestic leagues. Its absolutely clear that he cannot produce in Europe. Knocked out by Dinamo Kiev, and Sporting Lisbon in the Europa league??? Embarrassing. Only taking a point off Napoli? Embarrassing.
Or is it just me that looks at the tactics of all the managers in Europe he's faced, and think's he's been terribly out classed? Jesus Christ, he's made Frank De Boer look like a tactical genius!
If any of you have seen a manager panic and make such blatantly stupid decisions in the Champions league, I BEG YOU to post some examples.
That includes the Fiasco of swapping a striker for a defensive midfielder in Munich while 0-2 down. That includes zone-marking Ronaldo with a single fullback, and not getting our team to push out and maintain possession for five fucking minutes. That includes repeated adjustments to 3-5-2 when it has yet to work in a single fucking match. That includes changing immediately back from the 3-5-2 switch to a 4-4-2 after failing at it miserably, this of course happening in two vital Champions League matches. That includes switching to a 4-0-6 formation to try and win a Champion's league match as if we had Ajax pinned in like QPR at home. The list goes on. Never seen a single manager make such an abundance of stupid decisions that can be directly linked to failure.
But its the players' faults?
levets said:
Dear child, if all it took to lose a match of football 3-1 playing a group of superstars against an academy team, was losing possession a few times (a third of the way up the fucking pitch), and a few missed chances, then every game would end in a loss... for both teams (yes that's impossible, which illustrates the stupidity of your post).
Did you not watch the fucking match? The first goal went in because Clichy was caught trying to defend a cross and the player it was sent to (who also scored). Mancini doesn't get paid to prance around the bloody technical area shouting random poems, he is paid to see the threat coming (and it was mentioned before the 40th minute). All Mancini had to do was hold his defensive midfielders behind their attacking midfield and there would have been no confusion by Clichy.
Second goal was 100% down to zonal marking in the box. They were clearly setup in a half-diamond with no one instructed to cover the posts. The same fucking thing allowed Skrtel to score on us at Liverpool. Had they man-marked and had someone on each post, if Lescott would have been beaten (unlikely if he was able to get a spring), then Clichy would have cleared it from the post. It was no accident, that defensive mistake, that was a blatant strategic decision. Who is ultimately responsible for strategic decisions? Yaya Toure, Barry, Kompany? Pfff. You are clueless.
The Third goal came within a couple minutes of changing to a back three. This decision we all know was a shit decision. If you think it wasn't then why THE FUCK did Mancini immediately change back to a back four after the goal? Our defense was in such tatters that Clichy didn't even know what position he was going to be moving to. No one to blame but Mancini. Or wait, was it Dzeko's fault they switched to a back 3, had no idea what the fuck they were doing, and then let a player get a free shot from the edge of the box??? Give me a fucking break.
I suppose it was just a fluke that Mourinho took Mancini's European flops and won the CL with them after two years? Its pretty clear that Mancini knows how to build a team, its even more clear that once he's assembled it, he knows how to manage it in the domestic leagues. Its absolutely clear that he cannot produce in Europe. Knocked out by Dinamo Kiev, and Sporting Lisbon in the Europa league??? Embarrassing. Only taking a point off Napoli? Embarrassing.
Or is it just me that looks at the tactics of all the managers in Europe he's faced, and think's he's been terribly out classed? Jesus Christ, he's made Frank De Boer look like a tactical genius!
If any of you have seen a manager panic and make such blatantly stupid decisions in the Champions league, I BEG YOU to post some examples.
That includes the Fiasco of swapping a striker for a defensive midfielder in Munich while 0-2 down. That includes zone-marking Ronaldo with a single fullback, and not getting our team to push out and maintain possession for five fucking minutes. That includes repeated adjustments to 3-5-2 when it has yet to work in a single fucking match. That includes changing immediately back from the 3-5-2 switch to a 4-4-2 after failing at it miserably, this of course happening in two vital Champions League matches. That includes switching to a 4-0-6 formation to try and win a Champion's league match as if we had Ajax pinned in like QPR at home. The list goes on. Never seen a single manager make such an abundance of stupid decisions that can be directly linked to failure.
But its the players' faults?