Is the age for consensual sex (16) too high?

nashark said:
timesprout said:
1. When I was 15 i thought yes its too high.

2. Now my daughter is 15 i think it should be 21.

3. No not imprisonment, handed to his parents trussed up with a sign round your neck saying "but he said i could"


really last one was just wrong , even in jest

Any 15 year old is going to have urges. All I'm asking is that if we truly live in a free society, instead of repressing these urges (possibly leading to depression), shouldn't we encourage the children to express them sexually?[/quote]

That just sounds wrong!
 
nashark said:
PJMCC1UK said:
A 49yo bloke with a 15 year old should be in prison.

Why?

If they both want each other then surely they should be allowed?

And what's the difference between 16 and, say, 14/15?

Are 14 and 15 year olds mature enough to deal with the emotions involved in having a sexual relationship?
The problem isnt about teenagers experimenting with their peers but that of peadophiles grooming kids for their depraved sexual urges.
At least 16, but I would prefer it to be 18, old enough to have children legally but not old enough to vote?
Seems strange.
 
law74 said:
nashark said:
Why?

If they both want each other then surely they should be allowed?

And what's the difference between 16 and, say, 14/15?

Are 14 and 15 year olds mature enough to deal with the emotions involved in having a sexual relationship?
The problem isnt about teenagers experimenting with their peers but that of peadophiles grooming kids for their depraved sexual urges.

But what's the significant change that occurs at 16?

Put down the Daily Mail for a second and ask does it really matter if two consenting partners, one of them 14, the other one 52, are in a relationship if they both love each other?
 
nashark said:
PJMCC1UK said:
A 49yo bloke with a 15 year old should be in prison.

Why?

If they both want each other then surely they should be allowed?

And what's the difference between 16 and, say, 14/15?

Between 15 and 49 there is a huge difference. especially in maturity. Even though it's perfectly legal for a 49yo to bed a 16 yo I'd be a bit freaked out by that. I'm 28 and would look at 16 as too young.
In your teenage years you are hormonal and pretty horny too it's only natural. But there are people who will exploit that for their own gains. Hell I've seen posts by pedos who use the fact that pre pubescent kids touch themselves as justification for wanting sex.

Which is all why I said I'd put 18 as a guideline. Even in Spain where the girl only has to be 13 to give consent there are add ons to the law that means the boy has to be of a similar age. Because a grown man could take advantage of her hormonal state.
And the difference between 16 and 14/15 could go further down to 13. My answer is that if they are both around that age it isn't bad. And I agree that we won't be banging them in jails but I think that the consent laws are there to stop adults abusing positions of trust to exploit young people sexually not to actually stop teenagers having sex.

Because frankly we all know we can't stop the kids from doing it.
As another poster said it should be more about proper sex education. Not just johnnys on cucumbers, ( that just raises expectations too high.)
 
PJMCC1UK said:
Wow what an op.

As for the Vatican it's the youngest in Europe. There is actually an African country which lists the age of consent as puberty.
You do know that Africa is not in Europe dont you ?

The Threads a wind up but eh lets go with it.

African nations have probably the highest child mortality rates in the world. Hence, Make babies has soon as you can to propagate the species
 
timesprout said:
PJMCC1UK said:
Wow what an op.

As for the Vatican it's the youngest in Europe. There is actually an African country which lists the age of consent as puberty.
You do know that Africa is not in Europe dont you ?

The Threads a wind up but eh lets go with it.

African nations have probably the highest child mortality rates in the world. Hence, Make babies has soon as you can to propagate the species


Yes I do realise AFRICA is not in EUROPE. The original post just said that the lowest age of consent was the vatican. I stated that the Vatican had the lowest in Europe but there was actually an African country where it was lower.

Wind up or not you could still have a reasonable debate about the subject. It's actually quite interesting to see the varying countries attitudes to it all. Even America where it varies from 14 to 18 state by state
 
timesprout said:
The Threads a wind up but eh lets go with it.

I assure you it's not. I just wanted a second opinion on it.

On Wikipedia, it says that girls complete puberty by 15. Why must they remain celibate for a year when they're already up for it?
 
nashark said:
timesprout said:
The Threads a wind up but eh lets go with it.

I assure you it's not. I just wanted a second opinion on it.

On Wikipedia, it says that girls complete puberty by 15. Why must they remain celibate for a year when they're already up for it?


come on ''up for it''? are they?
 
PJMCC1UK said:
nashark said:
I assure you it's not. I just wanted a second opinion on it.

On Wikipedia, it says that girls complete puberty by 15. Why must they remain celibate for a year when they're already up for it?


come on ''up for it''? are they?

According to science, yes.
 

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