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Because of how good Kante is, and how much we need to take the pressure off our defence. I just think we need someone who can break up opposition attacks, disturb their rhythm and win us the ball back.
I understand why you think it may be a good idea, but don't see why you think Pep would be looking for a destroyer type when it's not something he does, any more than he would look at a Costa type centre forwrd or Terry type centre back . From what I have seen and read hes far more likely to bring in a ball playing intelligent midfielder for that position.
 
Yaya will probably be gone, dont why you say midfield destroyer, when has Pep ever used one of them, he'll want an intelligent deep playmaker in the pivot.
I don't know if you implied this, but Isco is not a deep playermaker, and couldn't be reformed to be one. With Manu Garcia, Zinchenko, Diaz, Foden in the pipeline this is a buy we don't need. Spending money on fullbacks or defensive midfielders (like Fabinho) makes far more sense.
 
I understand why you think it may be a good idea, but don't see why you think Pep would be looking for a destroyer type when it's not something he does, any more than he would look at a Costa type centre forwrd or Terry type centre back . From what I have seen and read hes far more likely to bring in a ball playing intelligent midfielder for that position.

I guess it's just what I'd like to see because every time an opponent has the ball in our half it looks like we could concede. Maybe Pep will look at how Kante and Dembele have transformed Chelsea and Spurs and think maybe that's what is needed in England, more than Germany or Spain where it's probably easier for a top side to hold a lead once in front. Here, no team ever gives up (unless they're bending over for the rags or Chelsea it seems!) so we have to be able to break up attacks constantly during a game. Just my opinion though, I'd feel more relaxed watching games if we could get the ball back more in our half when we lose it.
 
I don't know if you implied this, but Isco is not a deep playermaker, and couldn't be reformed to be one. With Manu Garcia, Zinchenko, Diaz, Foden in the pipeline this is a buy we don't need. Spending money on fullbacks or defensive midfielders (like Fabinho) makes far more sense.
No I agree I just got into a conversation about what kind of deep lying midfeilder we would be looking for. Im not sure we need Isco either but like Sanchez I would like to be able to convince myself we do. Agree. We need full backs centre back keeper and pivot first. Probably wrong thread really.
 
We don't need him.
Already got Silva, KDB, Sané, Sterling, Gundogan, Yaya and Jesus.

Better to save as much cash as possible to get the very best full backs, centre back, keeper and midfield destroyer available.
Using your logic, we don't need all that, we have Ota, Stones, Kolarov, Kompany, Adarabioyo, Dihno, Delph, Nando. See? It is easy to rattle off names.

We have KDB and Silva. Their lack of competition is why we keep playing KDB when he is off form right now. If we had Isco we'd have simply gone with the him and iced KDB as a starter for a while.

My vision of our core 20 squad would look like this.

Fwd: Jesus, "Mbappe", Sterling and Sane

Mids: Silva, Kev, Ilkay, Garcia, "Isco", Dihno

Def: "Semedo", Maffeo, Stones, Ota, Kolarov, "Bernat," Zichenko.

GK: "Ederson,' Bravo, Gunn

Ederson, Semedo, Bernat, Isco, Mbappe.


That will be my 5.
 
I don't know if you implied this, but Isco is not a deep playermaker, and couldn't be reformed to be one. With Manu Garcia, Zinchenko, Diaz, Foden in the pipeline this is a buy we don't need. Spending money on fullbacks or defensive midfielders (like Fabinho) makes far more sense.
We currently have 3 destroyer type CMs Delph, Dihno and Nando. We don't necessarily need these type of player.

We will keep Dihno, the other 2 are not necessary. Isco can be retread as the type of DM Modric currently is. But different views I guess.
 
I don't know if you implied this, but Isco is not a deep playermaker, and couldn't be reformed to be one. With Manu Garcia, Zinchenko, Diaz, Foden in the pipeline this is a buy we don't need. Spending money on fullbacks or defensive midfielders (like Fabinho) makes far more sense.

We do in fact need a replacement for Silva. Buying Isco will have no impact whatsoever on our plans for our defense.
 
From an attacking point of view the two "false 8's" as they are now getting branded, are the most important roles in our team from an attacking sense.

I thing Pep will want along with Silva and De Bruyne two quality back-ups which we do have one in Gundogan, Isco could and probably will be very likely be the second back-up.

It's up to the four of them then to compete with each other for a starting position.
 
I guess it's just what I'd like to see because every time an opponent has the ball in our half it looks like we could concede. Maybe Pep will look at how Kante and Dembele have transformed Chelsea and Spurs and think maybe that's what is needed in England, more than Germany or Spain where it's probably easier for a top side to hold a lead once in front. Here, no team ever gives up (unless they're bending over for the rags or Chelsea it seems!) so we have to be able to break up attacks constantly during a game. Just my opinion though, I'd feel more relaxed watching games if we could get the ball back more in our half when we lose it.

Do you actually watch City or any other team Pep has managed
 
I understand why you think it may be a good idea, but don't see why you think Pep would be looking for a destroyer type when it's not something he does, any more than he would look at a Costa type centre forwrd or Terry type centre back . From what I have seen and read hes far more likely to bring in a ball playing intelligent midfielder for that position.

Agree, Pep wont go out and by a so called destroyer, he wants the whole team to have a pack mentallity in pressing and winning the ball back
 
The perfect Pep midfielder is Thiago. And now that he's finally healthy this season, we can see his influence in that Bayern team. Thiago has the best defensive/tackling stat AND best offensive/passing stat in Europe.
 
The perfect Pep midfielder is Thiago. And now that he's finally healthy this season, we can see his influence in that Bayern team. Thiago has the best defensive/tackling stat AND best offensive/passing stat in Europe.

I think he was hoping Gundogan could be that for us.
 
We do in fact need a replacement for Silva. Buying Isco will have no impact whatsoever on our plans for our defense.
Well the impact on defense is we will have less money to spend on it lol. Also, if we buy isco he is starting and not being a sub to silva. Silva has 2 more seasons with us I reckon, we have so much youth who play a role similar to silva that it'd be a waste of money to buy isco. I don't understand some people's aversion to playing youth, look at everton now, Koeman calls up some promising U23s and all of them are performing great.
 
We currently have 3 destroyer type CMs Delph, Dihno and Nando. We don't necessarily need these type of player.

We will keep Dihno, the other 2 are not necessary. Isco can be retread as the type of DM Modric currently is. But different views I guess.
The other 2 are not necessary, and Dinho is going to turn 32 next seaosn, see the problem? Modric is not a DM, he plays one of the false 8 roles in madrids 4-3-3.
 
Well the impact on defense is we will have less money to spend on it lol. Also, if we buy isco he is starting and not being a sub to silva. Silva has 2 more seasons with us I reckon, we have so much youth who play a role similar to silva that it'd be a waste of money to buy isco. I don't understand some people's aversion to playing youth, look at everton now, Koeman calls up some promising U23s and all of them are performing great.

Right now when we need to rest Silva or KDB that means a game for Navas. Both Silva and Isco would get plenty of games. I personally don't think Diaz is ready to step into the first 11, nor do I want to emulate Everton. Finally we can spend 100 million on two fullbacks and a CB and still have plenty for Isco.
 
Right now when we need to rest Silva or KDB that means a game for Navas. Both Silva and Isco would get plenty of games. I personally don't think Diaz is ready to step into the first 11, nor do I want to emulate Everton. Finally we can spend 100 million on two fullbacks and a CB and still have plenty for Isco.
What do you mean right now? We can't do anything right now. Navas? That guy is gone and Roberts is taking his place. You don't want to emulate Everton's ability to get youth straight into premier league games, being given the chance and making a difference? Also Diaz is not stepping into the first 11, he would be a squad rotation player to silva, and make his way to starting 11 when he reaches 20 or so, like Foden.
 
With Girona very likely being in La Liga next season I think Diaz will be joining in loan next season for at least a season.
 
Using your logic, we don't need all that, we have Ota, Stones, Kolarov, Kompany, Adarabioyo, Dihno, Delph, Nando. See? It is easy to rattle off names.

We have KDB and Silva. Their lack of competition is why we keep playing KDB when he is off form right now. If we had Isco we'd have simply gone with the him and iced KDB as a starter for a while.

My vision of our core 20 squad would look like this.

Fwd: Jesus, "Mbappe", Sterling and Sane

Mids: Silva, Kev, Ilkay, Garcia, "Isco", Dihno

Def: "Semedo", Maffeo, Stones, Ota, Kolarov, "Bernat," Zichenko.

GK: "Ederson,' Bravo, Gunn

Ederson, Semedo, Bernat, Isco, Mbappe.


That will be my 5.

No because most of the examples you've rattled off I deliberately didn't mention, because apart from Kompany, Stones and Fernandinho the others are average at best and need replacing.

Most of our attackers are already good enough that we don't need to replace them. We'll also have Gundogan back for next season so there's extra midfield cover right there.
 
We currently have 3 destroyer type CMs Delph, Dihno and Nando. We don't necessarily need these type of player.

We will keep Dihno, the other 2 are not necessary. Isco can be retread as the type of DM Modric currently is. But different views I guess.

Delph and Fernando are both nowhere near the standard required. We need Kante standard.
 
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