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Gaz (FMwkdsoul)
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Yh, I know where it came from we used 11 u21-players, Liverpool 10. Chelsea 4.
Quantity is a good measure. We had 18 players with 1000+ minutes, Liverpool had 20. Chelsea 22.
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Quantity is a good measure. We had 18 players with 1000+ minutes, Liverpool had 20. Chelsea 22.
I think Alvarez is Jesus' replacement. I know that he was signed to replace Ferran Torres, but Torres was really only ever a bit part player. If Sterling leaves then it is absolutely critical to replace him. I cannot fathom how anyone can think that we should go into next season with fewer attacking options than last season. Not to mention the fact that Sterling was really the only player offering us pace on the counter. Pep used him effectively for this purpose several times last season. We should get upwards of £50m and, with his substantial wages off the books, there should be plenty of financial wiggle room.
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So what would you do? Sign a player for £50m to play mayne 10 games, if they're lucky? How many decent cbs are gonna come to city to sit and wait for laporte and dias to be injured to get a game? Then we let mbete & callum go and in 5 years go spend a fortune on 2 or 4 cbs because all our elite youth leave because some fans want a £50m player to play 10 games or so, just incase.Callum Doyle isn't ready because he's literally got a season at League one level under his belt. He's never even trained with the first side for a sustained period of time so I can't see how he's possibly ready.
We are allowed 21 senior players plus Foden Palmer Mcatee and any other academy player. If we don't replace Sterling we'll be going with 20 and thinking that Palmer Mcatee can cover us. Not very different to going with 21and using those players. I don't know which we would do but if the manager thinks we can use Palmer and Mcatee to cover that's fine. In the scheme of things I doubt 1 player will decide whether we compete in the cups or don't.
I can probably to an extent agree with that logic when it comes to Jesus. I can't on Sterling. Because of his quality, and whatbhe contributes, rather than just being a body/number replaced by another body/number.
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Dolye would be at least 3rd/4th choice from the EDS options right now if the club HAD to pick one.Callum Doyle isn't ready because he's literally got a season at League one level under his belt. He's never even trained with the first side for a sustained period of time so I can't see how he's possibly ready.
THB, Mbete & Egan-Riley would all be ahead.
So what would you do? Sign a player for £50m to play mayne 10 games, if they're lucky? How many decent cbs are gonna come to city to sit and wait for laporte and dias to be injured to get a game? Then we let mbete & callum go and in 5 years go spend a fortune on 2 or 4 cbs because all our elite youth leave because some fans want a £50m player to play 10 games or so, just incase.
Yep, pretty much. And win a few trophies while at it. That's why we have won what we have, because we have quality players in all positions.
There is no such thing as 4th choice CB btw. It is 4 for 2 positions, which means every one is at worst a 2nd choice at any given point.
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I would like to see Sterling replaced myself, purely for his quality but if we didn't I don't think it impacts us greatly number wise when it comes to putting out strong teams in the 2 domestic cups.I can probably to an extent agree with that logic when it comes to Jesus. I can't on Sterling. Because of his quality, and whatbhe contributes, rather than just being a body/number replaced by another body/number.
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couldn't agree more, look at tall the ex united players who were/are managers , because they worked under fergusonNo way Arteta gets a look in at Arsenal if he wasn't under Pep. Being an ex player, would be nowhere near enough.
Only pep on his cv got him that gig.
If stan fucking collymore worked under pep for 3 years he would, eventually, be courted by other top level teams.
The magic "Pep shine" can polish up any old pile of shite to be employed into a big seat via reflected glory.
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For what it’s worth when I was in London earlier this year I went to watch AFC Wimbledon v Sunderland and Callum Doyle was playing. Suffice to say he didn’t look that good to be fair. I would have expected him to stand out at that level (League 1) but he was quite ordinary. Saying that it was only one game so might have had an off day.Callum Doyle isn't ready because he's literally got a season at League one level under his belt. He's never even trained with the first side for a sustained period of time so I can't see how he's possibly ready.
I would like to see Sterling replaced myself, purely for his quality but if we didn't I don't think it impacts us greatly number wise when it comes to putting out strong teams in the 2 domestic cups.
I think it does. Significantly. And I don't expect it will happen, myself.
We had a 100 million player sitting on the bench for the business end of the season. 2 strikers coming in on top of that. A prodigious young talent in Palmer. If Raheem and Jesus leave we already have enough.
Enough for what? To put numbers out in games, sure. To win multiple trophies that the club aspires to? Not really.
With 5 subs there's no reason now we don't see more of the kids get some time.We had a 100 million player sitting on the bench for the business end of the season. 2 strikers coming in on top of that. A prodigious young talent in Palmer. If Raheem and Jesus leave we already have enough.
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I’d like to keep Raz and I didn’t think he would go either though I’m 50/50 right now.I think it does. Significantly. And I don't expect it will happen, myself.
What makes you think he stays out of interest? Or are you saying he will go but won’t be replaced?
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i really think people make things up to suit their argument , everybody was hoping walker was fit for the last few games, especially madrid and villa, he is a big part of our successDid you miss how we defended without Walker last season?
Walker had an absolutely outstanding season and we’d have beaten Real Madrid comfortably if he wasn’t missing from the side for a large % of the tie. He has different attributes that are just important to the team than anything else you list. Pretty sure his role next season will be as strong as ever.
I’d like to keep Raz and I didn’t think he would go either though I’m 50/50 right now.
What makes you think he stays Out of interest?
I think his options are limited, his desire to leave isn't immediate or pressing, and I don't think the club will push it in any way, seem happy enough to let him finish his contract and contribute till the end.
I think the Chelsea noise is a bit of a quickly stirred storm in a teacup. Think they will end up signing Dembele instead though.
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I hope so. I’d like to see Raz play with Haaland even if he then leaves for free the following year.I think his options are limited, his desire to leave isn't immediate or pressing, and I don't think the club will push it in any way, seem happy enough to let him finish his contract and contribute till the end.
I think the Chelsea noise is a bit of a quickly stirred storm in a teacup. Think they will end up signing Dembele instead though.
I don't see why AC Milan with new owners and big plans will sell a star player off the back of a title win and CL qualification. If Mendes starts meddling then he risks pissing off a new big bank account he can drain in the next decade.
I posted in here but rumours in January that Juve were snooping tapping him up like they did to Vlahovic. Telling him not to sign a new deal run his deal down move to Juve on a free with a big pay day. Juve are known for this.
If indeed that is happening because he was all for signing a new deal until those rumours started appearing.
Then it was Leao was putting off doing any new deal with Milan.
That is why he may move this summer, Milan would much rather sell him to a team outside of their own league. His value is at an all time high. It will decrease next year with one year left.
I hope so. I’d like to see Raz play with Haaland even if he then leaves for free the following year.
I also think there would be too much change quite suddenly if he left now, and the club could well take managed continuity over money.
If he leaves now, with Jesus and Torres, that's 3 forward players down, with 2 new ones to settle in, one who has never played in Europe, before you even look at potential replacements for Raz. And that's not including Grealish who is yet to find his place too.
Where as if he leaves next year, Alvarez, Grealish, maybe even Palmer will all have had a year more to adjust and any incoming replacement is playing with a more settled team. It gives another year to address Mahrez as well who may be offered an extension or if not, its still Sterling and Mahrez leaving, a max of 2 out.
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I also think there would be too much change quite suddenly if he left now, and the club could well take managed continuity over money.
If he leaves now, with Jesus and Torres, that's 3 forward players down, with 2 new ones to settle in, one who has never played in Europe, before you even look at potential replacements for Raz. And that's not including Grealish who is yet to find his place too.
Where as if he leaves next year, Alvarez, Grealish, maybe even Palmer will all have had a year more to adjust and any incoming replacement is playing with a more settled team. It gives another year to address Mahrez as well who may be offered an extension or if not, its still Sterling and Mahrez leaving, a max of 2 out.
All makes sense to me but if Chelsea offer 50 plus and he wants to go City might take it. Hopefully Chelsea won’t offer near 50.
Jesus and Fernandinho is enough for one window.