It's Quiet 18 - Wanna ring the bell?

[bluesince76]

I don't think that's the suggestion. It's that clubs (and obviously he means City and Chelsea) are not using their Academies with the primary aim of finding new squad players. They're creaming off many more of the top young players with little intention of playing them. They are mostly being recruited to be sold for a profit.

You're right - It does reek of being a problem "because City are doing it", but I don't think it's a case of "everyone else", as it's something that only a few wealthy clubs can do. I said in a follow up post, that it's not exactly ideal for football, that we, as a wealthy club, are selling to mid/lower table clubs players that often started their careers at mid/lower table Academies. The league would be more completive if that talent was spread around amongst the clubs who would play Academy players, and if a sale took place, the money would flow from the wealthier to the less wealthy clubs.

Have a look at the Academy/CFG list posted in a thread earlier - plenty of players there who came to City aged 13-16 from other PL/Championship clubs, or other mid-sized European clubs.

It's what we needed to do to compete with the 'istory clubs who fucked up the system in the first place, but the point is valid that it's not great for football in the long run.

The alternative view is that City (and others) take the best talent they can find, develop them with the best coaches they can get, provide them with a private education which will be critical for the many who don't make it at all and create many, many players who are able to play at professional levels around Europe. Considering the odds of any kid making it, they're clearly doing something right. If those kids had stayed at the other clubs, we've no idea whether they would have made it or not.

There should perhaps be better compensation for smaller clubs, maybe an agreed percentage based on age when a player is taken and how long the other club had trained them, but there are lots of inequalties in football that no one seems to care about. Personally, I wish they'd ban academies for say under 14s across Europe. If the clubs then wanted to be able to find decent players, they'd need to spend more time sending coaches to schools or amateur clubs where all the kids would benefit from better coaching and facilities and it would avoid shattering the dreams of lots of kids (and parents) when a kid is taken to an academy at 6 and then released at 12 or whenever.

 

[Summerbuzz]

Seen it happen a few times at other clubs, I think. Everyone keeps their options open.

 

[Quilted]

Word around the street is McAtee is at Seagrave training ground

 

[Gaz76]

Word around the street is McAtee is at Seagrave training ground

Word around the campfire is nobody on here has a clue where that is

 

[Quilted]

Word around the campfire

Google is your best friend

 

[Summerbuzz]

Word around the campfire is nobody on here has a clue where that is

well I'm foxed

 

[David Silva]

The comment from Delaney didn’t quote for some reason, this is what it said

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The bloke is utterly obsessed and will just move the goalposts forever to complain about city.

If we had a full 23 man squad that had come from the academy he’d be calling for restrictions on who we can recruit at youth level.

 

[Ajm1985]

Ducker reporting on McAtee's interest in getting minutes elsewhere. That, Palmer going and Phillips possibly going on loan leaves spaces in the squad. If we aren't interested in replacements, as per Bajikowski, Bobb will be getting some decent minutes. Talented player so hopefully he has no trouble stepping up.

 

[Damien10]

Ducker reporting on McAtee's interest in getting minutes elsewhere. That, Palmer going and Phillips possibly going on loan leaves spaces in the squad. If we aren't interested in replacements, as per Bajikowski, Bobb will be getting some decent minutes. Talented player so hopefully he has no trouble stepping up.

Mcatee enjoyed his time at Sheffield United last season and is his preferred option.

 

[Cobwebcat]

I don’t like this transfer window anymore. Its too weird for me.

 

[abu13]

Word around the street is McAtee is at Seagrave training ground

Everyone knows the Bird is the word!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dialog]

LETS GO BLUES. HERE WE GO CHAMPIONS OF WORLD FOOTBALL!!!

 

[glyntowen]

i'm pretty happy with our window given the madness of the market, only disappointing departure for me is Palmer, seems a strange move to Chelsea but fair play if he is backing himself

as for the ins I'm good with who we have brought in, think we dodged a bullet on 85m for Paqueta
Kovacic and Gvardiol look like they have been here years
I've wanted pace in the side for a couple of seasons and hopefully Doku will stay fit and deliver
Nunes didn't stand out for me but he has come at a reasonable price and Pep has followed him for year so I'll go with it

no where near the disaster some are making out, look at the red scouse spending money to fix their midfield but their defence also needs a massive rebuild

the rags have bought a comedy keeper not seen at OT since the days of jittery jim leighton
they need a proven striker and spent 72m on a untested kid
they need another mid but have no cash and they have still got a shakey defence with Maguire\Martinez\Linderoff at the heart of it

Arsenal have overpaid on Rice and how Havertz makes a living i have no idea

 

[not my fault!]

LETS GO BLUES. HERE WE GO CHAMPIONS OF WORLD FOOTBALL!!!

Can’t argue with that, can’t see Newcastle reaching the knockouts and can already see the Arsenal fans convinced they’ll be winning it in the comments lol.

 

[NQCitizen]

Pep did away with fullbacks last year, wingers are going this year

If you see Foden and Alvarez as 2 floating 10s expect to see Grealish and Walker as the widest players.

 

[Dialog]

Can’t argue with that, can’t see Newcastle reaching the knockouts and can already see the Arsenal fans convinced they’ll be winning it in the comments lol.

Group of DEATH for NEWCASTLE.
Arsenal and all other club fans are claiming we "rigged" the draw as always, they are claiming we got the easiest draw.
Barcelona's group is easy and Arsenal's group looks like a EUROPA group, ofcourse they would think that far, that they would win the UEFA. They haven't played UEFA in such a long time, perhaps they are thinking winning their GROUP STAGE is winning the UEFA, someone needs to remind them that is not the case!

 

[Dialog]

Arsenal fans convinced they’ll be winning it in the comments

They are convinced they will win the EPL too. They are dripping in sauce aren't they. Too much confidence in just the first month of FOOTBALL!
With so much games they will be involved in, they would be lucky to not blow their ENGINE by FEBRUARY, if they think they can go for both the UEFA and EPL. But lets leave the talking on the pitch!

 

[Sir peace frog]

You missed Palmer out nobody in

well ,you missed every transfer with your inside info :)

 

[Irlam Haaland]

Rent-free between his 2 ears 24/7

Legend has It, that 2 piece jigsaws go unsolved In his house.

 

[not my fault!]

Group of DEATH for NEWCASTLE.
Arsenal and all other club fans are claiming we "rigged" the draw as always, they are claiming we got the easiest draw.
Barcelona's group is easy and Arsenal's group looks like a EUROPA group, ofcourse they would think that far, that they would win the UEFA. They haven't played UEFA in such a long time, perhaps they are thinking winning their GROUP STAGE is winning the UEFA, someone needs to remind them that is not the case!

They are convinced they will win the EPL too. They are dripping in sauce aren't they. Too much confidence in just the first month of FOOTBALL!
With so much games they will be involved in, they would be lucky to not blow their ENGINE by FEBRUARY, if they think they can go for both the UEFA and EPL. But lets leave the talking to the pitch!

Tbf it’s probably the first perceived “easy group” city have had lol. They can’t claim we had it easy last time, we had to beat Bayern and Real to reach the final lol. Arsenal may get a shock yet in their group. I can also see Utd fucking up in theirs, with a bit of luck.