It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

[OliMCFC]

Maybe extend Stones and loan him to Arsenal - a year getting regular football might rehabilitate him and get him in the England squad ahead of the Euro's.

If he goes on loan shouldn't be to the Prem. They're the f**kers we should be exploiting for every penny

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

I think it's pretty clear we want Koulibaly.

If we can't get him for whatever reason, it looks like we'll spend big money on Skriniar, Dias or Diego Carlos.

There's a good chance any centre half will take a while to settle anyway.

Are any of them big upgrades on Stones?

If we spent the extra cash on other areas, such as a new left back, would it be the end of the world to go into next season with Laporte, Stones, Ake, Garcia? With Tosin, Dinho and Harwood-Bellis as cover?

Obviously the club want Koulibaly, and so do I, but some of the alternatives don't seem a massive upgrade IMO.

 

[bugsyblue]

If we sign Koulibaly then him, Ake, Laporte and Garcia are great quality CBs.

Otamendi will have a decent season at Valencia and Stones at Everton. We won’t miss either.

 

[mosssideblue]

Because he can lock in £150k a week for another 5 years?

It's obscene, it really is

 

[willipp]

Because he can lock in £150k a week for another 5 years?

And hardly play though. Could probably go to Arsenal and get similar and be there number 1 starting CB if fit.

 

[oakiecokie]

All of a sudden I'm starting to feel like I'm part of a minority that rates Garcia.

Add me to that list.All of a sudden we should keep Stones because he`s better than Garcia.Thats open for debate ... what isn`t, is how often is Stones going to break down with more injuries.
Stones to go and keep Garcia.No brainer for me.

 

[OrigamiNinja]

Think you are spot on TH and Ive said itseveral times myself.

Stones is the better centre half of the two (esp in the premiership) - If Barca want Garcia Id sell him in a heartbeat - he is good but I tiink long term he will struggle int he premiership- playing for Barca in a two horse league most weeks will be more suited to him.

If we can get Stones head right and bring in Ake and Koulibaly (or even plan B to him whoeever that might be) and sell Garcia and Ota then our centre half options look considerably stronger

Neither are good enough now but if you look at their history at the club, Otamendi in 17/18 played at a level Stones can only dream of. In addition, if we look at ROI, Otamendi has provided far more value than Stones.

 

[bondsman]

I think it's pretty clear we want Koulibaly.

If we can't get him for whatever reason, it looks like we'll spend big money on Skriniar, Dias or Diego Carlos.

There's a good chance any centre half will take a while to settle anyway.

Are any of them big upgrades on Stones?

If we spent the extra cash on other areas, such as a new left back, would it be the end of the world to go into next season with Laporte, Stones, Ake, Garcia? With Tosin, Dinho and Harwood-Bellis as cover?

Obviously the club want Koulibaly, and so do I, but some of the alternatives don't seem a massive upgrade IMO.

A decent lb that can defend would make as much difference as a top CB I agree.

 

[cjn]

I think it's pretty clear we want Koulibaly.

If we can't get him for whatever reason, it looks like we'll spend big money on Skriniar, Dias or Diego Carlos.

There's a good chance any centre half will take a while to settle anyway.

Are any of them big upgrades on Stones?

If we spent the extra cash on other areas, such as a new left back, would it be the end of the world to go into next season with Laporte, Stones, Ake, Garcia? With Tosin, Dinho and Harwood-Bellis as cover?

Obviously the club want Koulibaly, and so do I, but some of the alternatives don't seem a massive upgrade IMO.

You're asking if Koulibaly is a big upgrade on John Stones?? What is happening here?

 

[GOULDYBOBS]

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You're asking if Koulibaly is a big upgrade on John Stones?? What is happening here?

Think he means if we don't get Koulibaly, are the alternatives any better

 

[Keeper!]

Otamendi is far less an issue.

Earns considerably less than Stones and out of contract next summer.

He can count on a lot more suitors abroad than Stones has in England.

I think we would be foolish to sell Stones this summer. Garcia is not as good at this time and might never be.

But at least Garcia would be ready when required, unlike Mr Stones who goes missing when he is needed the most!

 

[cjn]

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Think he means if we don't get Koulibaly, are the alternatives any better

You're completely right. My fault @balotelli's back pocket!

 

[LongsightM13]

Stones hasn’t been trusted physically or mentally to do the job for 18 months now. An injury prone veteran, a converted midfielder and a raw teenager have all been selected ahead of him over that time, even when fit. He’s toast imo

 

[CityStu]

Has anyone watched Stones in the last year? He's not at the required level.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Stones hasn’t been trusted physically or mentally to do the job for 18 months now. An injury prone veteran, a converted midfielder and a raw teenager have all been selected ahead of him over that time, even when fit. He’s toast imo

I imagine you are right.

I'm wondering what the fuck has happened to him. I never wanted him in the first place but it very much appeared as if he was going to vastly exceed my expectations & imo he hit a period where he was one of the absolute best cbs in Europe, but it seems like he's slept in a hedge ever since. Now he is exactly what I thought he would be before we signed him.

I would still think he could get back to where he was though, which, imo, is better than Garcia will ever be, as a cb, much rather have a fully focused JS. Pep used to big up his personality but doesn't seem to have the same opinion anymore.

 

[SWP's back]

All of a sudden I'm starting to feel like I'm part of a minority that rates Garcia.

I think he’s better than Stones, but if he goes to Barca then he’s shite.

 

[SWP's back]

Are any of them big upgrades on Stones?

Yes

 

[Tevez City]

Not when a club has to pay his contract, 20m and him off the wage bill is a BIG POSITIVE

The contract thing can be said about any player leaving, whether its Ferran or Koulibaly.

We are not paying him Sanchez salary

Paid 50m for him, was coached by Pep for 4 years therefore his value should go up as he is still 26 years old.

 

[LongsightM13]

I imagine you are right.

I'm wondering what the fuck has happened to him. I never wanted him in the first place but it very much appeared as if he was going to vastly exceed my expectations & imo he hit a period where he was one of the absolute best cbs in Europe, but it seems like he's slept in a hedge ever since. Now he is exactly what I thought he would be before we signed him.

I would still think he could get back to where he was though, which, imo, is better than Garcia will ever be, as a cb, much rather have a fully focused JS. Pep used to big up his personality but doesn't seem to have the same opinion anymore.

He has turned his personal life into a burning skip. Left his childhood sweetheart and the mother of his child, replaces her with a ‘party girl’/groupie who has had more players than Jorge Mendes and who was already knocked up by another fella
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/9252760/john-stones-trolled-over-new-mum-lover/

 

[andyhinch]

I think he’s better than Stones, but if he goes to Barca then he’s shite.

I probably said the same about Sergio and meant every word ;-)