It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

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Can’t see Ole getting a top job after he leaves United. Can you?
I’m sorry but that doesn’t mean anything. He doesn’t work alone, he has a staff that does a lot of his job for him. And being who he is, next time we play, they could be only four points behind us.
 
I’m sorry but that doesn’t mean anything. He doesn’t work alone, he has a staff that does a lot of his job for him. And being who he is, next time we play, they could be only four points behind us.
Do you rate him as a manager?
 
Do you rate him as a manager?
Of course not lol but is he that much worse than Zidane, who has won La Liga and three Champions Leagues? Or World Cup winner Deschamps? He’s not a great manager, but he’s not so bad that he could screw up a top squad. He’s probably winning Europa League.
And I’ve thought Tuchel was a very good manager since Mainz. I’d take him whenever Pep decides to step down in a heartbeat
 
Of course not lol but is he that much worse than Zidane, who has won La Liga and three Champions Leagues? Or World Cup winner Deschamps? He’s not a great manager, but he’s not so bad that he could screw up a top squad. He’s probably winning Europa League.
And I’ve thought Tuchel was a very good manager since Mainz. I’d take him whenever Pep decides to step down in a heartbeat
That’s exactly my previous point, which you said didn’t mean anything. I appreciate English ain’t your first language mate, but clearly my previous point did mean something.

You could add Matteo to your list of poor managers who’ve won things. The difference with all of those managers compared with Solskjaer is that they already had a team full of winners with teams who had previously won things with the same players

Do you think United would be better with a manager such as Ancelotti, Conte or Allegri?
 
That’s exactly my previous point, which you said didn’t mean anything. I appreciate English ain’t your first language mate, but clearly my previous point did mean something.

You could add Matteo to your list of poor managers who’ve won things. The difference with all of those managers compared with Solskjaer is that they already had a team full of winners with teams who had previously won things with the same players

Do you think United would be better with a manager such as Ancelotti, Conte or Allegri?

I think the fact he probably wouldn’t get a top job after United (though you never know) doesn’t mean he can’t win the PL. That’s what I was trying to say.

And the answer to the final question is “maybe” for all three lol
 
I think the fact he probably wouldn’t get a top job after United (though you never know) doesn’t mean he can’t win the PL. That’s what I was trying to say.

And the answer to the final question is “maybe” for all three lol
Agree with that mate. He could, but with a decent manager they would have a much better chance, which the original reply from another poster seems to think is bollocks.

I’ll raise your maybe with a more than probably ;)
 
I personally don't think United are a threat with Solskjaer as long as we have Pep. They for me I reckon are at best an 80 point team. If they are a threat, it's more down to us having a bad year than them being good. They do have potential though, but they're not changing managers anytime soon.

Chelsea and Liverpool are still more of a concern. They'd both POTENTIALLY be good enough (90+ points) that we can't relax. I agree with the points that we can't really rest on our laurels, we have to do something in the summer. Replace Aguero, and one other is more than enough if they're good. Haaland and Grealish would be perfect. Even just one would be a big step.

We need to really go for quality though. Internal competition is what'll drive us forwards if previous years are anything to go by.
 
I personally don't think United are a threat with Solskjaer as long as we have Pep. They for me I reckon are at best an 80 point team. If they are a threat, it's more down to us having a bad year than them being good. They do have potential though, but they're not changing managers anytime soon.

Let’s assume United signs Grealish and Kane. Or Sancho instead of one of those two. And maybe add one or two good enough players to cover where they may be lacking. Would you really say they can’t be a threat? The number of points this year I don’t think can be the point of comparison given the way the season played out
 
Let’s assume United signs Grealish and Kane. Or Sancho instead of one of those two. And maybe add one or two good enough players to cover where they may be lacking. Would you really say they can’t be a threat? The number of points this year I don’t think can be the point of comparison given the way the season played out
I stick to my stance. As long as we have Pep and they have Solskjaer, no I don't see them as a threat barring a notably poor season by our standards. I don't see them as being any better than Tottenham were from 2016-2019. However if they replace Solskjaer with a better manager then even without those hypothetical signings I'd be far more weary of them.

Assuming City are good next season, my concerns currently lie with Chelsea and Liverpool.
 
I stick to my stance. As long as we have Pep and they have Solskjaer, no I don't see them as a threat barring a notably poor season by our standards. I don't see them as being any better than Tottenham were from 2016-2019. However if they replace Solskjaer with a better manager then even without those hypothetical signings I'd be far more weary of them.

Assuming City are good next season, my concerns currently lie with Chelsea and Liverpool.
I agree with you on Chelsea (especially) and Liverpool, but I also think United is in the mix. They already have something to build upon from this season. I wish it weren’t the case. The thing is, it’s the coaching staff, not just Ole, and the staff is competent enough.
Next season will be very, very tough
 
I agree with you on Chelsea (especially) and Liverpool, but I also think United is in the mix. They already have something to build upon from this season. I wish it weren’t the case. The thing is, it’s the coaching staff, not just Ole, and the staff is competent enough.
I personally think United have peaked for the time being, but admittedly there's no way I know for certain. You could be right.
Next season will be very, very tough
Just how we like it ;).

17/18 aside I don't think we've ever prevailed in an 'easy' season.
 
I personally think United have peaked for the time being
That is why my hypothesis is built around the notion that they would considerably improve their squad with two or three big signings and maybe two more squad players who can get the job done. If their window fails (or at least pales in comparison to ours and Chelsea’s), then you’re probably correct that they’ve peaked
 
I see two additions to the squad and one outgoing. Aguero is gone and as much I would like Mendy to leave, I think we are stuck with him and he will be likely our 3rd Choice LB after Zinch and Cancelo. I would give Dinho another year here. Foden who was thought to be replacement of Dave as actually ended up replacing Sane. So we only have 3 CM's for two places (KDB, Gundo & Bernie). I will like to bring Hossem Aouar for that position. The ideal replacement for Aguero for me is Haaland. Will be difficult to get him but no possible. As currently 1 foreign spot is vacant we can accomodate 2 incomings as oppose to 1 outgoing.

So Outgoing
Aguero (Free)

Incoming
Haaland (£100 Million)
Hosem Aouar (£ 40Million)
 
Do think a lack of physicality and athleticism is something we need to address

Other than Walker, I don't think any of our players have that raw athleticism that you sometimes need when the passes are quite working, sometimes you just need to bulldoze your way to a scrappy win

Links to Zakaria/Bissouma make sense, get a bit more athleticism and energy in the midfield

Also Nuno Mendes as he is everything we wanted out Mendy who is now shot to shit

Then obviously Haaland, pace and power in abundance
 
Do think a lack of physicality and athleticism is something we need to address

Other than Walker, I don't think any of our players have that raw athleticism that you sometimes need when the passes are quite working, sometimes you just need to bulldoze your way to a scrappy win

Links to Zakaria/Bissouma make sense, get a bit more athleticism and energy in the midfield

Also Nuno Mendes as he is everything we wanted out Mendy who is now shot to shit

Then obviously Haaland, pace and power in abundance
The links to Grealish also make sense,he's relentless when required,a proper never say die player.
 
United are focused on Sancho, not a striker, with Cavani set to renew.

That is good news in some respects, as we would land about £16m as part of his sale.

United not being in the equation for Haaland is two fold.

One less competitor for us, but allows Dortmund to bluff out a non-sale for quite a bit.
 
a little bit of news just browsing Madrid news online and looks as though they are after Lautaro and Salah in the summer. No news about Haaland same with Barca , Barca news is just about Aguero no other striker mentioned. Chelsea also are going all in on Lukaku.
 
a little bit of news just browsing Madrid news online and looks as though they are after Lautaro and Salah in the summer. No news about Haaland same with Barca , Barca news is just about Aguero no other striker mentioned. Chelsea also are going all in on Lukaku.

Madrid are a funny one

Salah is probably gonna cost Haaland money....why don't they just go for Mbappe who clearly wants to join them
 
United are focused on Sancho, not a striker, with Cavani set to renew.

That is good news in some respects, as we would land about £16m as part of his sale.

United not being in the equation for Haaland is two fold.

One less competitor for us, but allows Dortmund to bluff out a non-sale for quite a bit.
Are we still looking at a LB mate? How many players realistically if things went to plan are we looking at? 3-4?
 
Madrid are a funny one

Salah is probably gonna cost Haaland money....why don't they just go for Mbappe who clearly wants to join them

From what iv seen from madrid people posting info, they really dont have the money for it, super league was suppossed to save Perez this summer. So Mbappe plus his wages isnt realistic for them right now
 
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